26CornerBlitz Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Well, it's official: There are two outside veteran QBs I would considering bringing in. Luck, and Cousins. Each will costs a king's ransom. I don't want any of the other scrubs. Luck isn't going to be moved. OTOH, their #3 overall pick could be in play. 1
Ayjent Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, HappyDays said: The Chiefs did fleece the Redskins on this trade. Of course if Mahomes becomes the next big arm with poor mechanics QB to bust in the NFL, this trade won't matter. You could do a lot worse than Alex Smith. He had the highest passer rating in the league. I wouldn't expect him to repeat that but I definitely don't expect Mahomes to even come close. We shall see. They must really like Mahomes and Reid knows how to develop players at the QB position - but I think they are going to get Mahomes into rhythm with simple passing to the playmakers on the team. I would imagine it is going to be a lot of horizontal and short passing with a heavy dose of run and RB/TE pass plays.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Ayjent said: We shall see. They must really like Mahomes and Reid knows how to develop players at the QB position - but I think they are going to get Mahomes into rhythm with simple passing to the playmakers on the team. I would imagine it is going to be a lot of horizontal and short passing with a heavy dose of run and RB/TE pass plays. No way! With the big arm and play making abilities he possesses that's exactly what they will not do. 1
Virgil Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 7 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: I think Denver and Arizona have the most realistic chances of landing Cousins with Denver being the front runner, Elway always seems to lure the big fish. Of the teams needing a QB, only the Jets have more cap space. And that’s before we release TT. However, we probably have the most URFA too. If we can defer any of the Cousins money to next year, we’d be in great shape.
Zerovoltz Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, HappyDays said: The Chiefs did fleece the Redskins on this trade. Of course if Mahomes becomes the next big arm with poor mechanics QB to bust in the NFL, this trade won't matter. You could do a lot worse than Alex Smith. He had the highest passer rating in the league. I wouldn't expect him to repeat that but I definitely don't expect Mahomes to even come close. NFL Passer rating is a rediculously outmoded and outdated stat. in 2000, Brian Greise was no.1 and Brett Favre was something like 21st. If you look at the formula for NFL passer rating it is HEAVILY skewed toward completion percentage and interceptions. Smith completes a TON of very high percentage short passes....and he will not throw a ball with a reciever that has even a defender nearby. He is VERY VERY safe....passer rating rewards Smith for completing a three yard pass on 3rd and 8, and it doens't penelize him on 3rd and 8 when he jitters out of a clean pocket for a 2 yard gain...he didn't take a sack, he didn't throw a pick, he didn't have an incomplete pass...NFL passer rating rewards that. So, yes, Smith was the "highest rated NFL passer" it's 100% true...and he earned it. 1
SouthNYfan Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: No way! With the big arm and play making abilities he possesses that's exactly what they will not do. Especially with kelce, hunt, and hill. That offense is loaded.
Ayjent Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: No way! With the big arm and play making abilities he possesses that's exactly what they will not do. You ever watch Andy Reid's offenses, especially with new starters? He has a big arm for sure, but I'm just telling you that Reid is going to put the training wheels on to make sure he can do the things they need him to do before opening things up.
Virgil Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Well, it's official: There are two outside veteran QBs I would considering bringing in. Luck, and Cousins. Each will costs a king's ransom. I don't want any of the other scrubs. I don’t think McDaniels takes that job if Luck isn’t in the plans to be the starting QB
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Luck isn't going to be moved. OTOH, their #3 overall pick could be in play. I know. It's my little fantasy. At this point, I would rather use them as a potential trading partner if we really think we have our guy than any other vet QB. I don't want us to get into a bidding war for Cousins, and even if we did I think we lose. Just now, Virgil said: I don’t think McDaniels takes that job if Luck isn’t in the plans to be the starting QB tagged into response 2
JohnC Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 10 hours ago, HappyDays said: I don't think that's true, I think Washington just didn't want to make him the highest paid player of all time which is what it will take. He wouldn't have turned that down. With respect to Washington the Cousin debate is now a moot debate. He is essentially gone. Cousins maneuvered himself into a situation where the Redskins wouldn't/shouldn't have signed him at. That's the scenario that Cousins wanted, not the scenario that Washington wanted to be in. The next issue is where is he going to go? If he is simply looking for the money Cleveland is where he will go. My guess is he will go to Denver.
Zerovoltz Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 This is a good breakdown of what we see, what we saw all preseason and what the players and other observers say they see in practice....he's ready and he's going to be awesome.
BillsFan2313 Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, matter2003 said: New Orleans had historically bad defenses for much if that time, Washington hasn't. The Saints had a good D this year, and voila! they are 11-5! Washington was 27th in scoring defense this past year In 2016 and 2015, they had winning records and were 19th and 17th in scoring defense 1
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Zerovotlz said: This is a good breakdown of what we see, what we saw all preseason and what the players and other observers say they see in practice....he's ready and he's going to be awesome. If that you Jeff?
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: If that you Jeff? You're a bit late, I called this last night.
Chicken Boo Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 The Skins got fleeced! This is what happens when you don't have a competent GM. There is no Kelce, Hill, Hunt or a good o-line in Washington.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Chicken Boo said: The Skins got fleeced! This is what happens when you don't have a competent GM. There is no Kelce, Hill, Hunt or a good o-line in Washington. Their OL is actually pretty good, but they had lots of injuries in '17with LT Trent Williams primarily and it was the same with TE Jordan Reed who is excellent.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, Zerovotlz said: NFL Passer rating is a rediculously outmoded and outdated stat. in 2000, Brian Greise was no.1 and Brett Favre was something like 21st. If you look at the formula for NFL passer rating it is HEAVILY skewed toward completion percentage and interceptions. Smith completes a TON of very high percentage short passes....and he will not throw a ball with a reciever that has even a defender nearby. He is VERY VERY safe....passer rating rewards Smith for completing a three yard pass on 3rd and 8, and it doens't penelize him on 3rd and 8 when he jitters out of a clean pocket for a 2 yard gain...he didn't take a sack, he didn't throw a pick, he didn't have an incomplete pass...NFL passer rating rewards that. So, yes, Smith was the "highest rated NFL passer" it's 100% true...and he earned it. As I said elsewhere: "QBR? Be careful where you point that thing....it's loaded!" 2
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, joesixpack said: You're a bit late, I called this last night. I hadn't been on since yesterday morning. It was my first thought when I saw the post.
Chicken Boo Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, JohnC said: With respect to Washington the Cousin debate is now a moot debate. He is essentially gone. Cousins maneuvered himself into a situation where the Redskins wouldn't/shouldn't have signed him at. That's the scenario that Cousins wanted, not the scenario that Washington wanted to be in. The next issue is where is he going to go? If he is simply looking for the money Cleveland is where he will go. My guess is he will go to Denver. Washington could have had Kirk for $20 million per the year Osweiller was signed by the Texans, they chose not. The following year they could have signed him for $23 million per, but they tagged him instead. They put themselves in this position, hoping he'd fail while on the tag and lower his value. They gambled, they lost.
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