DC Tom Posted April 3, 2018 Posted April 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Trust. Indictment coming his way. Awan story will be a big death blow for a bunch of congress critters and DNC folk. DWS is shitting bricks. That is a lot to infer from one person declining to run for reelection. Hell, I haven't even seen anyone claim anything criminal was done by any Congresscritters. Just House Ethics violations.
Deranged Rhino Posted April 3, 2018 Author Posted April 3, 2018 Just now, DC Tom said: That is a lot to infer from one person declining to run for reelection. Hell, I haven't even seen anyone claim anything criminal was done by any Congresscritters. Just House Ethics violations. You will soon. I didnt think Awan was going to break big til the end - but they've bumped it up with last week's news. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted April 3, 2018 Author Posted April 3, 2018 Putting this here too. Big news. 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Well look at that: https://mobile.twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/981139958307180544 Read RR's redacted memo laying out the precise scope of RM's authority. Highlights: * Ordered him to look into Manafort and the Ukraine (that's Podesta connection/Clinton/Obama connection) * Ordered him to look into Manafort/Deripaska (important name, covered at length here - He paid for parts of the dossier! Connected to Warner scandal earlier this year, tied to McCain https://t.co/0H5BFdLHb2?amp=1 ) * RR makes it clear the Ukraine connections have nothing to do with Trump (spelled out in the doc, read it) So, again, if Mueller is really investigating Trump - why is he being secretly ordered to investigate the origin of the dossier and Manafort's connection to the Ukraine? BECAUSE MANAFORT WAS A PODESTA PLANT. This is is all unraveling now. This is actual evidence. Not mere speculation. More here: https://www.scribd.com/document/375432215/Response-to-Motion#download&from_embed 2
row_33 Posted April 3, 2018 Posted April 3, 2018 the bogus investigation on the GOP will go on for years for no reason and the righteous investigations on the Dems will go nowhere despite life in prison deserved for many.... business as usual.
Deranged Rhino Posted April 3, 2018 Author Posted April 3, 2018 You're assuming it's bogus. I'm assuming it's not. It's just not the investigation people have assumed it is. Every single domestic indictment has been about collusion with the DNC thus far minus Flynn's. But that's gonna get thrown out.
row_33 Posted April 3, 2018 Posted April 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: You're assuming it's bogus. I'm assuming it's not. It's just not the investigation people have assumed it is. Every single domestic indictment has been about collusion with the DNC thus far minus Flynn's. But that's gonna get thrown out. it's bogus against Trump, I'm sure some bad business deals were made over the last 30 years by people now with some political power, whatever... I'm not anticipating a meeting where Mueller goes AHA!!! and says he was really going after the Hillary Fund...
boyst Posted April 3, 2018 Posted April 3, 2018 6 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: "Cheating Obama" ... This IG report is going to be BAD NEWS for 44. https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/981126375716409344 Fyi I am not trying to be a jerk. I just cannot believe this can unfold as it looks like it could. It seems wrong on so many levels
Deranged Rhino Posted April 4, 2018 Author Posted April 4, 2018 7 hours ago, Boyst62 said: Fyi I am not trying to be a jerk. I just cannot believe this can unfold as it looks like it could. It seems wrong on so many levels I understand people thinking justice won't come, we have lived our whole lives in a system rigged to protect the powerful. But it's a new world now. You have to try really hard not to see what's coming... Could it turn out as you predict? Absolutely. The odds are heavily in your favor.
Doc Brown Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 15 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: "Cheating Obama" ... This IG report is going to be BAD NEWS for 44. https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/981126375716409344 Who knows with Trump what he meant? My first thought was the birther/college records thing that put him in the political world, but you may be right. As an aside, I love how we don't even blink when our current president uses a 5th grade nickname to his predecessor. ANY other president and this would dominate the news cycle for weeks.
4merper4mer Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: I understand people thinking justice won't come, we have lived our whole lives in a system rigged to protect the powerful. But it's a new world now. You have to try really hard not to see what's coming... Could it turn out as you predict? Absolutely. The odds are heavily in your favor. So has Mueller and he has thrived in this system while he bolsters it. As did lap dog Comey. All you have to do is look at Mueller to know if he would EVER look for truth anywhere and/or go after Clinton. NOPE
DC Tom Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Who knows with Trump what he meant? My first thought was the birther/college records thing that put him in the political world, but you may be right. As an aside, I love how we don't even blink when our current president uses a 5th grade nickname to his predecessor. ANY other president and this would dominate the news cycle for weeks. Trump yesterday said the Army was going to secure the border until the wall was built, which was the first DoD had heard of the plan. Point being, Trump says random, stupid **** off-the-cuff, and we probably shouldn't read much in to it.
boyst Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 7 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Who knows with Trump what he meant? My first thought was the birther/college records thing that put him in the political world, but you may be right. As an aside, I love how we don't even blink when our current president uses a 5th grade nickname to his predecessor. ANY other president and this would dominate the news cycle for weeks. Now the cheatin' part is being called racist. Hahahaha
Warren Zevon Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: (won't happen) Better get Devin a diaper
3rdnlng Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 19 minutes ago, garybusey said: Better get Devin a diaper What's wrong with you, don't you want to know the truth?
Koko78 Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 47 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: What's wrong with you, don't you want to know the truth? Which truth?
3rdnlng Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 35 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Which truth? The true truth.
3rdnlng Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 31 minutes ago, Koko78 said: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=you+can't+stand+the+truth&view=detail&mid=F5D77DD5FE8EA81AB4EAF5D77DD5FE8EA81AB4EA&FORM=VIRE
Deranged Rhino Posted April 11, 2018 Author Posted April 11, 2018 Rather HUGE development today... this belongs in a few threads but I'll put it here first. Long(ish) post warning: ECW GETS A NEW JOB http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/382653-ezra-cohen-watnick-joining-doj Let's dig into this deeper. This is a MAJOR development that signals things at the DOJ are about to get quite spicy. Ezra Cohen-Watnick (ECW) is a name that should be remembered from my previous threads on General Flynn and the network of leak hunters he installed while he was NSC. As a refresher, check out this important article from the Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/ezra-cohen-watnick/534615/ So who is ECW? He's a 31 year-old former DIA officer (spook) who was put on the NSC by Flynn and given the senior director of intelligence programs position - a position traditionally staffed by CIA. This shot at the CIA by Flynn (former DIA director) is an important element to keep in mind. Remember that there is a war going on... While much of the nation's attention is on the political bickering of the two main parties, the real conflict going on behind the scenes which is influencing all of the rest is an ongoing war between CIA and DIA. This "rivalry" has gone hot over the past several years, and Flynn and his gang of spooks were right in the center of that conflict. In fact, it was his conflict with CIA which originally put the target on General Flynn's back during his tenure under 44. From the Atlantic article: Quote "According to a former senior intelligence official, Cohen-Watnick later served overseas in Afghanistan at a CIA base. 'He was embedded with Agency guys,' said a person familiar with Cohen-Watnick's career, 'but the Agency guys were all like '!@#$ this guy, he's just here to spy on us for Flynn and the DIA.' A White House official said that Cohen-Watnick did not know Flynn at the time he was in Afghanistan but did not dispute that there were "rivalries between CIA and DIA." "Rivalries" is an understatement... but back to ECW - who was given a position traditionally staffed by more senior CIA personnel by General Flynn himself. That shows me that ECW is incredibly trusted by Flynn, and as we'd quickly learn, he became trusted by Trump himself in short order. ECW was put directly next to Trump on the NSC, he was his right hand man. In fact, ECW became so crucial to Trump's team that McMaster could not replace him when he took over Flynn. This inability to replace the 31 year-old pissed off both Langley and McMaster to no end. Ask yourself why an unknown 31 year-old guy was suddenly untouchable in the early months of '17. What was going on at that time? A massive counterintelligence operation lead by a team of Military Intelligence personnel headed by Rogers, DNI Coats, and (until he resigned) Flynn. The Atlantic article makes it quite clear that ECW was not a suit who sits behind a desk, but rather a spook who preferred to stay in the shadows. In my previous threads on ECW I detailed my theory that General Flynn installed a team of spooks within the NSC to plug leaks AND track down plotters of the palace coup. We've seen the results of this operation in the fallout since Flynn's plea - the operation was a SMASHING success. ECW first appeared in the public spotlight when Devin Nunes launched his first press conference in March of '17 about 44's spying on Trump associates during the campaign. It was ECW who facilitated the document exchange with Nunes. From the Atlantic again: Quote "Washington got its first real look at Cohen-Watnick when he was identified as one of two White House sources who provided House Intelligence chairman Devin Nunes with evidence that former national security adviser Susan Rice requested the 'unmasking' of the names of Trump associates in intelligence documents. In the intelligence world, incidental collection refers to intelligence agencies obtaining, in the course of monitoring foreigners, communications that either refer to or involve Americans, whose names are typically 'masked' unless officials request that they be 'unmasked.'" "The incident, coming in the aftermath of Trump baselessly accusing his predecessor of wiretapping Trump Tower, became one of the first dust-ups related to the investigations into possible Russian collusion during the '16 campaign that have gripped the White House... The president later acused Rice of having committed a crime; for her part, Rice has denied that she ordered the unmasking for political purposes." It's been my contention for a year now that ECW was a part of this network of spooks who were working directly with Admiral Rogers, DNI Coats, and Flynn himself before he was fired to identify leaks and palace coup plotters. We've seen this group in action when Flynn was being dragged through the mud. The day after Flynn's plea (a Saturday, not a traditional news day) this apparatus began leaking the damaging Strzok/Page texts to the press. Coincidence or retaliation? Now, ECW has shifted positions to work alongside Jeff Sessions at DOJ. While a lot of people have been angry at Sessions for inactivity, the reality is the man and the DOJ have been hard at work building numerous cases simultaneously and in secret. Including this one: http://thehill.com/video/in-the-news/360320-sessions-doj-investigating-27-classified-leaks Do we think ECW will be helpful to that investigation? How about this one: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/01/doj-report-expected-to-cast-harsh-eye-on-mccabe-for-leaking-to-press-about-confidential-investigation.html Or this one: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/367541-fbi-launches-new-clinton-foundation-investigation Or this one: http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/381888-mystery-surrounds-sessions-appointee-to-fbi-investigation What happens when you pair an accomplished spook with a locked and loaded AG Sessions? I cannot WAIT to see how this develops in the coming weeks... 1
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