Nunes Memo to be Released

[DC Tom]

3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

It is highly ironic he's calling a thread that deals almost exclusively with actual evidence of actual crimes conspiracy theory. Considering he's clearly bought fully into a theory that lacks evidence and is only reinforced in vacuous echo chambers. 

 

But I don't think he's sharp enough to catch that.  

 

I've seen tennis balls that were sharper.

[njbuff]

2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

It is highly ironic he's calling a thread that deals almost exclusively with actual evidence of actual crimes conspiracy theory. Considering he's clearly bought fully into a theory that lacks evidence and is only reinforced in vacuous echo chambers. 

 

But I don't think he's sharp enough to catch that.  

 

I just shake my head at the way the left has acted since Trump's nomination.

 

TDS truly is a mental disorder that needs a drug for the FDA to approve. It's that bad in this country.

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, njbuff said:

 

I just shake my head at the way the left has acted since Trump's nomination.

 

TDS truly is a mental disorder that needs a drug for the FDA to approve. It's that bad in this country.

 

It's a test of patience, for sure. Because the truth is they've been lied to. It's not their fault. And when the dam actually breaks (which is coming), a lot of these people will become allies... and we'll need them on our side. 

 

Some though are lost causes.

[DC Tom]

Just now, njbuff said:

 

I just shake my head at the way the left has acted since Trump's nomination.

 

TDS truly is a mental disorder that needs a drug for the FDA to approve. It's that bad in this country.

 

Was it after 2004 that Democrats were holding group therapy sessions to deal with the election?  Stupid as that was, it was healthier than how they're acting now.

[njbuff]

3 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Every time I've checked cnn.com in the past six months, it's been one third advocacy and one third gossip.  

 

Hell, today they actually had an article on the front page on how the Academy needs a "Social Justice Oscar."

 

CNN............................ Is there a bigger joke on our airwaves?

1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

It's a test of patience, for sure. Because the truth is they've been lied to. It's not their fault. And when the dam actually breaks (which is coming), a lot of these people will become allies... and we'll need them on our side. 

 

Some though are lost causes.

 

I think all this TDS stems from his p*ssy comment, when anyone with a brain in their heads realize that guys talk like that in a locker room setting and if you don't believe that you are being lied to.

[DC Tom]

Just now, njbuff said:

 

CNN............................ Is there a bigger joke on our airwaves?

 

Yes.  MSNBC and Fox.  

 

In 15 years, there has been exactly one instance I haven't laughed at Fox's news coverage.  That's one more than I haven't laughed at MSNBC.

[Cinga]

4 minutes ago, njbuff said:

 

I just shake my head at the way the left has acted since Trump's nomination.

 

TDS truly is a mental disorder that needs a drug for the FDA to approve. It's that bad in this country.

So THAT is why all the concern over opioid addiction! The many that will become addicts after the 2020 election due to a new group of TDS!

[njbuff]

3 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Yes.  MSNBC and Fox.  

 

In 15 years, there has been exactly one instance I haven't laughed at Fox's news coverage.  That's one more than I haven't laughed at MSNBC.

 

I don't know what to think of any of these networks.

 

I like FOX because of the hot chics and it's almost like watching softcore porn. 

 

I don't take what they say too seriously, but I like the skirts they have.

Edited March 6, 2018 by njbuff

[DC Tom]

Just now, njbuff said:

 

I don't know what to think of any of these networks.

 

I like FOX because of the hot chics and it's almost like watching softcore porn.

 

The office where we used to watch Fox at lunchtime, we used to joke they didn't hire from journalism schools, but the Ford Modelling Agency.  

[njbuff]

2 minutes ago, Cinga said:

So THAT is why all the concern over opioid addiction! The many that will become addicts after the 2020 election due to a new group of TDS!

 

For the Dems sake, they had better come up with a candidate that can beat Trump, otherwise this country will go into complete meltdown if Trump wins again in 2020.

2 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

The office where we used to watch Fox at lunchtime, we used to joke they didn't hire from journalism schools, but the Ford Modelling Agency.  

 

Funny, even the ugly women are hot at FOX.

[LA Grant]

27 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Okay then, since you've read enough of this thread to mock my position, give me your summary of my position on this subject. 

 

Hahaha. That would be convenient for you, eh? I don't think you know your position on the subject anymore. Are you able to articulate it? What's your current version now that the "the election was rigged against Trump" horse has been thoroughly shot down? How are you justifying the McCabe developments to fit?

 

But let's see... I know you're still hoping for the MOAB prophecy to be realized, and that's the core of it — that the Mueller investigation is not to be trusted. (Pretty similar to your position on the Parkland kids; they're probably liars!) 

 

I enjoyed your confidence that it would come in the State of the Union. Then that it could be in the Nunes memo. Then that the Nunes memo mattered. Then, possibly currently, that maybe it will still come from Horwitz. Now I suppose you're hoping it'll come right around the time Mueller wraps up his investigation and Trump gets really desperate. You have certainly helped, what's that phrase you like, "prepare the battlefield" for Trump to claim "Fake News" if/when the last indictments drop. You are, if nothing else, a good puppet. Good job with that, freedom fighter.

 

I will tell you that my favorite of your novellas was the one where you got really emotional imagining the anonymous black hats fighting a secret war to rig the election against Trump.  That one was pretty good. I liked how you were brought to tears by your own Tom Clancy fan fiction. Pretty funny.

 

Anyway, here's a pretty good summary of your position:

 

Edited March 6, 2018 by LA Grant

[Deranged Rhino]

4 minutes ago, LA Grant said:

 

Hahaha. That would be convenient for you, eh? I don't think you know your position on the subject anymore. Are you able to articulate it? 

 

I can articulate my position and have. Often. 

 

It would have been way easier for you to have just answered "no, I can't articulate your position because I'm an asshat". 

 

That's a helpful tip.  

Edited March 6, 2018 by Deranged Rhino

[LA Grant]

7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I can articulate my position and have. Often. 

 

It would have been way easier for you to have just answered "no, I can't articulate your position because I'm an asshat". 

 

That's a helpful tip.  

 

Whatever you say, bud ???

 

On 1/30/2018 at 3:29 PM, Deranged Rhino said:

Let's take a trip down memory lane, while also talking about Military Intelligence:

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/ezra-cohen-watnick/534615/

 

Re-familiarize yourselves with Ezra Cohen Watnick, a man I covered in great detail in the General Flynn Leak Killer post. ECW is one of the few public signs of the military intelligence circle surrounding Trump: open source proof of the theory I referenced above. 

 

ECW is a former DIA officer hired by General Flynn to work on the NatSec Council in a position traditionally filled by CIA personnel. CIA and DIA do not get along, I've been arguing for over a year that elements within these two agencies are openly at war with one another. There are no verified photos of ECW, no one inside the administration will talk about ECW.

 

Why?

 

He's a spook. 

 

And he's directly tied into the Devin Nunes memo. Remember this? 

http://www.newsweek.com/ezra-cohen-watnick-donald-trump-devin-nunes-russia-barack-obama-wiretap-susan-583904

 

 

You know what happened between 4/13/17 and the release of this memo?

 

Everything quoted above. 

 

What happened on the White House lawn that morning was a counter-intel operation, run by ECW in conjunction with Admiral Rogers and General Flynn. William Goldman described the nature of this type of operation once, he used a basketball analogy. If someone has the ball, and there's a defender in his way, the person with the ball will do one of two things: fake one way and go the other, or fake both ways and go right. Goldman said neither of these really work. He said the smartest thing to do is to fake right and GO right.

 

Make your opponent THINK your first move is a feint, so they prepare for a DIFFERENT move. 

 

ECW and Nunes faked right and went right. They presented the intel handover as if it were a clown show. And the media happily aided and abetted their efforts. 

 

Nothing is as it seems.

 

This is by design.

 

ECW and Nunes (and Trump) put REAL intel into the minds of the public, but did so in such a histrionic way that everyone laughed at it and then forgot about it. They laughed at Nunes. They laughed at Trump's tweet about Trump Towers being wiretapped. 

 

Now look at where we are... Are they still laughing?

 

Turning back to Trump and his MI team:

 

It's been my contention, for months now, that Trump got tipped off by MI personnel early in 2016 that 44 and company were spying on him and his campaign. For the sake of this post, let's say this happened in April of 2016. Months before the election. Months before people were seeing Russians under every bed and in every closet in Trump Tower. 

 

Trump is fond of quoting Sun Tzu. As is Mike Flynn. One of the first lessons (paraphrased) in The Art Of War is this: if you know how your enemy is going to move against you, you can not only prepare defenses against the attack but you can also ENTRAP and guide them into the trap itself. 

 

What did Trump know months before the election?:

 

That top players in the DOJ/FBI/CIA were illegally spying on him and his team, preparing to move against them should Trump somehow win what was to be a rigged election.

 

When the civilian IC is turned against you, your only ally is Military Intelligence... which is a separate animal all together. 

 

The men he surrounded himself from the very start all had ties to this Military Intelligence world: Flynn, McMasters, Kelly, Mattis. They were preparing for over a year for the attack they knew would be launched after election night. Any doubts they had about their intel were wiped away election night when Mike Rogers visited Trump Tower unannounced. The next day, the entire team moved to New Jersey. 

 

This team of Military Intelligence Officers came up with a plan to minimize the attack of the black hats in the DOJ/FBI/USIC while guiding them into a trap. 

 

The use of a small team of highly skilled military spies figured heavily into this plan. Men like ECW. Men like David Cattler. Men and women who spent their careers in the field hunting terrorists. Finding needles in piles and piles of needles using SIGINT and HUMINT to accomplish their mission.

 

These men and women are professional leak hunters, not amateurs or academics posing as veterans like the Brennan's and Haydens of the spook world. 

 

Trump, Flynn, and Rogers turned these guys loose - with TS/SCI clearances to strike back against the soft coup and to plug the leaks which killed the past two administrations. Both W and 44 were plagued by leaks, if you recall, yet Trump's administration has been leak free. The leaks that have come have been proven to be bogus. The leakers were real, the information they leaked was false. This is because these leakers were fed barium meals (see earlier thread) by this team of MI spooks working to out the corruption. 

 

There are a lot of people who have been screaming impatiently for arrests or a clean sweep of the DOJ/FBI from day one of Trump's term. But that's naive not to mention impossible. The rot was so deep, the corruption so firmly entrenched in these institutions that there was no way to just fire one or two people and call it a day. More to the point, the abuses in power Trump and his team knew about (BEFORE THE ELECTION) were so staggering in scope that simply firing people would not be enough. 

 

Examples need to be made. Examples will be made.

 

That meant this team of MI spooks needed to build AIR TIGHT cases that Sessions could actually prosecute. There was no room for mistakes. The goal was to make it so nobody EVER tried to do this again, not just to get political revenge.

 

Dedicated military intelligence officers spent the past 12 months collecting evidence, tracking leakers, and exposing plots - all from positions within the DOJ and USIC after being reassigned post Flynn's firing. The black hats STILL can't figure out what hit them. Neither can the MSM pundits in their employ. They thought the coast was clear. Trump had won, yes, but they still had the wheel of power under their thumb. They were free to operate, to try to oust Trump... or so they thought. 

 

But remember your Sun Tzu: "All warfare is based on deception."

 

While the black hats were prostituting their federal authority to go after political opponents, very serious and dedicated patriots who take their oaths to the constitution seriously, were slowly guiding them all into a trap. Unlike lowly men like Holder who talk about respecting the law while undermining it, these spooks would die to defend our republic. 

 

And make no mistake. Nothing less than the fate of our republic was at stake. Using federal agencies to target US Citizens based on their political opposition undermines everything in our Constitution. Everything. These spooks take defending that document VERY seriously. 

 

We will never know most of their names. That's how they want it. They're not in it for the fame or glory. But when a serious threat to our way of life and form of government rose up, a corruption so vast that the only way to fight it was to go outside traditional civilian IC/DOJ channels, these spooks were ready to respond. To fight the fight we could not fight for ourselves. Not to cement a new dictator or Satan - but to give the people back the very power which was stolen from them by this corrupt cabal. 

 

They're !@#$ing heroes. Every single one of them. I wish I could explain in detail more specifics as to why I feel this way, but I cannot at this time.  

 

Imagine how confident Brennan, Clapper, Holder, Obama were transferring power to Trump last January...

 

They'd just spent the last 8 years weaponizing federal agencies against opposition. Trump would be gone soon, they KNEW it. They had engineered it to happen.

 

Here's my caption for this picture:

 

44: "Best of luck to you, Donald." (Sucker, if you only knew what was waiting for you. You'll be gone in a month.)

 

 

45: "Thanks, Barrack!" (Loser. I know everything. Bring it.)

 

You don't want military spooks going against you. It's a game you'll lose every time. Something these criminals are just starting to realize... 

 

 

hahahahahhaa you are looney tunes.

[Deranged Rhino]

2 minutes ago, LA Grant said:

 

Whatever you say, bud ???

 

 

hahahahahhaa you are looney tunes.

 

What, specifically, in that post do you find looney? I mean, besides the facts. I know you're allergic to those. 

[DC Tom]

20 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I can articulate my position and have. Often. 

 

It would have been way easier for you to have just answered "no, I can't articulate your position because I'm an asshat". 

 

That's a helpful tip.  

 

He put a HELL of a lot of effort in to not answering. 

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, DC Tom said:

 

He put a HELL of a lot of effort in to not answering. 

 

He really did. 

[Azalin]

4 hours ago, LA Grant said:

 

Ha, okay. Sure. Apologies for not using the politically correct "people first" language on this one.

 

You're not a right winger. You, DC Tom, LABillzFan, Tasker... you're all independents ??who just so happen to be enthusiasts of right-wing propaganda. 

 

Actually, DR is an independent and a liberal. He's just not a partisan who doesn't wear his bitterness on his sleeve. He thinks and is sincere. That's why you can't relate to him.

 

4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Okay then, since you've read enough of this thread to mock my position, give me your summary of my position on this subject. 

 

Why bother? He has no desire to hear what you're saying. He thinks you're a conservative, so all he does is flame and troll whatever you post. You'll not convince him otherwise because his mind is made up. He's got you quoting your own posts just to defend your own goddam position.

 

He gets bored with trolling and yanking peoples' chains, then goes away for a year or two before coming back for more. At least Gatorman sticks around and takes the abuse, but this guy is just another fly-by-night mental midget who thinks he's smart.

 

He's not. He's just a douche.

[Deranged Rhino]

16 minutes ago, Azalin said:

Why bother? He has no desire to hear what you're saying. He thinks you're a conservative, so all he does is flame and troll whatever you post. You'll not convince him otherwise because his mind is made up. He's got you quoting your own posts just to defend your own goddam position.

 

He gets bored with trolling and yanking peoples' chains, then goes away for a year or two before coming back for more. At least Gatorman sticks around and takes the abuse, but this guy is just another fly-by-night mental midget who thinks he's smart.

 

He's not. He's just a douche.

 

 

You're right as was O earlier. Lesson learned. 

[LA Grant]

28 minutes ago, Azalin said:

Actually, DR is an independent (not true) and a liberal (not true). He's just not a partisan (not true) who doesn't wear his bitterness on his sleeve (not true). He thinks (not true) and is sincere (true). That's why you can't relate to him. (not true)

 

That's quite a few falsehoods in just four sentences. Not bad. Ever think about running for office?

 

Quote

 

Why bother? He has no desire to hear what you're saying. (Not true, otherwise why bother reading & responding to so much of his crap?) He thinks you're a conservative, (true) so all he does is flame and troll whatever you post (Not true — I only flame/troll malignant stupidity for their own good). You'll not convince him otherwise because his mind is made up. (Not true — I am persuaded by good arguments) He's got you quoting your own posts just to defend your own goddam position. (Not true — quoting his posts to point out the stupidity)

 

He gets bored with trolling and yanking peoples' chains, then goes away for a year or two before coming back for more. (Probably true) At least Gatorman sticks around and takes the abuse, but this guy is just another fly-by-night mental midget who thinks he's smart. (Debatable)

 

He's not. (Debatable) He's just a douche. (True)

 

 

On PPP,  the madness grows like mildew. It's why your head isn't working right: you've been breathing toxic fumes.

 

This thread is like if someone on TSW started raving how Rob Ryan is actually a genius who let himself coordinate the worst defenses in the NFL for years, just so he could get hired to the Bills, knowing he'd get his brother fired, but it was all part of the plan, a secret war between the scouts, and all will be revealed in the 2018 draft when the Buffalo Bills use both first round picks on Doug Whaley and Rex Ryan for sweet revenge.

Edited March 6, 2018 by LA Grant

[Azalin]

Just now, LA Grant said:

 

That's quite a few falsehoods in just four sentences. Not bad. Ever think about running for office?

 

 

On PPP,  the madness grows like mildew. It's why your head isn't working right: you've been breathing toxic fumes.

 

This thread is like if someone on TSW started raving how Rob Ryan is actually a genius who let himself coordinate the worst defenses in the NFL for years, just so he could get hired to the Bills, knowing he'd get his brother fired, but it was all part of the plan, a secret war between the scouts, and all will be revealed in the 2018 draft when the Buffalo Bills use both first round picks on Doug Whaley and Rex Ryan for sweet revenge.

 

No, you're wrong. But that's nothing new, is it?

 

You're only here to flame and to troll. DR is no conservative. If you've been paying any attention at all, then you'd know that. But you don't - or you do, but just want to troll him. Either way, $#@^ you. There are at least a few libs and dems that post here who can have a decent, constructive conversation. You're not one of them.

 

At first I thought you might be one of those people who likes to try to exert their intellect in online arguments in order to make themselves feel mentally competent, but I've since learned that I was giving you way, waaaaaaaaay too much credit. You're just a douche. A misguided, misinformed, frustrated malcontent with delusions of adequacy.

 

But I do give you credit for being one entertaining SOB, so I look forward to reading your reply.