Tiberius Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 25 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I disagree. We have concrete evidence they had the legal cover and opportunity to bug Trump. That's motive and opportunity. We also have concrete evidence they lied about how they got this opportunity (or that they even had it) for over a year. We also have concrete evidence the FBI (lead by Strzok) was "investigating" Trump Russian collusion since July 16... so if they had this FISA on Page, it would be a dereliction of that investigation NOT to bug Trump at that point, would it not? So there isn't any evidence at all that you can point to. Perhaps its stuffed deep in the butt hole of the deep state?
DC Tom Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 22 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: The act is the FISA warrant on Page and all the hoops they jumped through to hide the origin of the "evidence" they used to secure said warrant. The warrant gives them the opportunity to spy on Trump. The act of getting a bull **** FISA warrant through "sketchy" means is NOT the act of "spying on Trump," though. Motive and opportunity are not proof of "spying on Trump." They are indicators that, IF Trump was spied on, THEN it was the FBI that did it.
Deranged Rhino Posted February 12, 2018 Author Posted February 12, 2018 Just now, DC Tom said: The act of getting a bull **** FISA warrant through "sketchy" means is NOT the act of "spying on Trump," though. Motive and opportunity are not proof of "spying on Trump." They are indicators that, IF Trump was spied on, THEN it was the FBI that did it. Disagree. It wouldn't be the FBI who spied on Trump, it'd be 44 and HRC. The act of getting a FISA, on a man no longer associated with the campaign, served no other purpose BUT to get three hops on Trump and his team. There's no other explanation as to why they tried so hard, and broke so many laws, to secure a warrant on a man who was no longer attached the campaign that makes sense. There's no other reason to target Page for a Title 1 FISA, after being rejected by the FISC two previous times before.
GG Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Disagree. It wouldn't be the FBI who spied on Trump, it'd be 44 and HRC. The act of getting a FISA, on a man no longer associated with the campaign, served no other purpose BUT to get three hops on Trump and his team. There's no other explanation as to why they tried so hard, and broke so many laws, to secure a warrant on a man who was no longer attached the campaign that makes sense. There's no other reason to target Page for a Title 1 FISA, after being rejected by the FISC two previous times before. Although the evidence strongly points to your theory, there's been no act that demonstrates that spying has occurred.
Tiberius Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Disagree. It wouldn't be the FBI who spied on Trump, it'd be 44 and HRC. The act of getting a FISA, on a man no longer associated with the campaign, served no other purpose BUT to get three hops on Trump and his team. There's no other explanation as to why they tried so hard, and broke so many laws, to secure a warrant on a man who was no longer attached the campaign that makes sense. There's no other reason to target Page for a Title 1 FISA, after being rejected by the FISC two previous times before. About what? Russian hacking? Russian disinformation campaign? Trump doesn't even read his Dailey Intel Briefing. Obama tried keeping abreast of threats to the nation, which is worse?
Deranged Rhino Posted February 12, 2018 Author Posted February 12, 2018 Just now, GG said: Although the evidence strongly points to your theory, there's been no act that demonstrates that spying has occurred. Except for Flynn's name being unmasked on a call to Kislyak. We know he was unmasked per Yates' testimony, and that information was shared with the Washington Post's David Ignatius for his January 12th 2016 piece.
GG Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Except for Flynn's name being unmasked on a call to Kislyak. We know he was unmasked per Yates' testimony, and that information was shared with the Washington Post's David Ignatius for his January 12th 2016 piece. Again, all the evidence points to the act, but there's nothing that shows that the act has been committed. It's a slowly rolling train, but until it reaches the depot, I'll still treat it as a theory
Deranged Rhino Posted February 12, 2018 Author Posted February 12, 2018 Just now, GG said: Again, all the evidence points to the act, but there's nothing that shows that the act has been committed. It's a slowly rolling train, but until it reaches the depot, I'll still treat it as a theory That (and Cug's stance) is totally fair. Wait for the train to arrive.
Tiberius Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 26 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Except for Flynn's name being unmasked on a call to Kislyak. We know he was unmasked per Yates' testimony, and that information was shared with the Washington Post's David Ignatius for his January 12th 2016 piece. But of course they are going to listen to Kislyak. Duh! That proves absolutely nothing
3rdnlng Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 32 minutes ago, Tiberius said: About what? Russian hacking? Russian disinformation campaign? Trump doesn't even read his Dailey Intel Briefing. Obama tried keeping abreast of threats to the nation, which is worse? Please provide a link to this.
Cinga Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Please provide a link to this. you should really try that compression thing.... Just don't do it for too long or you might stay in that state forever... Tibs response is going to be, "But we KNOW Trump can't read!"
3rdnlng Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Cinga said: you should really try that compression thing.... Just don't do it for too long or you might stay in that state forever... Tibs response is going to be, "But we KNOW Trump can't read!" No you are incorrect. Gators response would be "Butt wee no Trump a cant reed reed."
Tiberius Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Please provide a link to this. google? Are you retarded?
3rdnlng Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: google? Are you retarded? You stated it, you prove it.
Tiberius Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: You stated it, you prove it. So, yes you are retarded. Third thing can't use goole!
3rdnlng Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So, yes you are retarded. Third thing can't use goole! .
Tiberius Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: . Why am I picturing you out there trying to goole something? Did you find a link to Trump not reading his intel reports? Too difficult for you?
3rdnlng Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Why am I picturing you out there trying to goole something? Did you find a link to Trump not reading his intel reports? Too difficult for you? It is not my responsibility to prove your statements for you. The media has hyped this for some time. As I recall he is briefed daily verbally so that he can ask questions. Of course his office gets a written copy.
Tiberius Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: It is not my responsibility to prove your statements for you. The media has hyped this for some time. As I recall he is briefed daily verbally so that he can ask questions. Of course his office gets a written copy. If you are too lazy then, don't bug me with a stupid question, you moron <----no, its not a complete sentence.
/dev/null Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: So, yes you are retarded. Third thing can't use goole! http://lmgtfy.com/?q=let+me+google+that+for+you
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