DC Tom Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 31 minutes ago, Taro T said: So, It seems that she's saying the FBI can release the transcripts without any concerns being raised by the court but that it's their call (or their bosses) whether to release them. Not really. More that the court recognizes Congress' prerogative to request the info, but isn't willing to have Congress do an end-around of the Executive's national security and law enforcement prerogatives by requesting it from the Judicial branch. "So ask the Executive like you're supposed to, we won't object, but we can't give you the Executive's information directly ourselves." They're deft and nuanced replies, basically reinforcing checks and balances, the courts' neutrality in judgement, and teeing up the possibility of court cases determining the breadth and limitations of Congress' oversight of FISA and the Executive Branch w/r/t national security. It's actually rather refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: Not really. More that the court recognizes Congress' prerogative to request the info, but isn't willing to have Congress do an end-around of the Executive's national security and law enforcement prerogatives by requesting it from the Judicial branch. "So ask the Executive like you're supposed to, we won't object, but we can't give you the Executive's information directly ourselves." They're deft and nuanced replies, basically reinforcing checks and balances, the courts' neutrality in judgement, and teeing up the possibility of court cases determining the breadth and limitations of Congress' oversight of FISA and the Executive Branch w/r/t national security. It's actually rather refreshing. Very reasonable view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 53 minutes ago, DC Tom said: They're deft and nuanced replies, basically reinforcing checks and balances, the courts' neutrality in judgement, and teeing up the possibility of court cases determining the breadth and limitations of Congress' oversight of FISA and the Executive Branch w/r/t national security. It's actually rather refreshing. Amazing that it took a Trump presidency for people to remember what their jobs are supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, GG said: Amazing that it took a Trump presidency for people to remember what their jobs are supposed to be. In accordance with the prophesy... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 Good article on the Rice email: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/456435/rice-email-reveals-plan-dont-tell-trump-hes-being-investigated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 The FBI spokesperson said they looked into the complaint fully but couldn’t identify the individual from the YouTube comment that sparked the complaint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Good article on the Rice email: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/456435/rice-email-reveals-plan-dont-tell-trump-hes-being-investigated So to take it a step further, the only way they could keep their bogus investigation going was to get an Independent Prosecutor to do it. Sessions really !@#$ed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 12 hours ago, DC Tom said: Like I said, only in instances of terrorism. Bomb making is looked on as a federal crime these days. I was bored at work and following random links to news information about the inner workings of fed investigations from the whole 4chan fake plot to bomb NFL stadiums and how it was just some kid in the basement talking about which would be the best to blow up with a humorous mindset. Then it went on to list all sorts of time the feds overreacted to silly situations; cited of course. It happens a lot more than people think of by people just googling ****. Makes you wonder And of course, @Deranged Rhino will chime in that it will happen soon if not already, someone asking Alexa to find the nearest cinnabon and be misheard for bomb making instructions to have the feds show up an hour later. Our society is !@#$ed. But in other news, sup FBI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 The Feds invade people’s lives constantly on rumours, even some have a basis of fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 The new Judge on Flynn's case, Sullivan, specializes in holding corrupt federal prosecutors in contempt for withholding evidence from defendants. Quote The judge assigned to Flynn’s case now is Emmet G. Sullivan. Judge Sullivan immediately issued what is called a “Brady” order requiring Mueller to provide Flynn all information that is favorable to the defense whether with respect to guilt or punishment. Just today, Mueller’s team filed an agreed motion to provide discovery to General Flynn under a protective order so that it can be reviewed by counsel but not disclosed otherwise. This development is huge. Prosecutors almost never provide this kind of information to a defendant before he enters a plea — much less after he has done so. This is one of myriad problems in our justice system... (snip) Judge Sullivan is the perfect judge to decide General Flynn’s motion. The judicial hero of my book, Emmet Sullivan held federal prosecutors in contempt for failing to disclose evidence, dismissed the corrupted prosecution of Alaska Senator Ted Stevens and appointed a special prosecutor to investigate the Department of Justice. (snip) Emmet G. Sullivan is one judge who is ready, willing and able to hold Mr. Mueller accountable to the law and who has the wherewithal to dismiss the case against General Flynn — for egregious government misconduct — if Mueller doesn’t move to dismiss it himself. (snip) Judge Sullivan is the country’s premiere jurist experienced in the abuses of our Department of Justice. He knows a cover-up when he sees one. Until the Department is cleaned out with Clorox and firehoses, along with its “friends” at the FBI, Judge Sullivan is the best person to confront the egregious government misconduct that has led to and been perpetrated by the Mueller-Weissmann “investigation” and to right the injustices that have arisen from it. Stay tuned for the fireworks. Yet another sign of where this is all going... http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/16/general-flynn-should-withdraw-his-guilty-plea-his-new-judge-is-a-government-misconduct-expert/?utm_source=site-share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 ... Here we go: Let's see who's up next... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I like Sullivan... You would be hard pressed to figure what side of the aisle he is on, but man, does he follow the law and Constitution to a T! Also the presiding judge on Judicial Watch law suit against the State Dept for Discovery in the Hillary email scandal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: ... Here we go: Let's see who's up next... Interesting all these things hit Friday afternoons, before a long weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/special-counsel-indicts-13-russian-nationals-russia-investigation/story?id=53147082 Special counsel indicts 13 Russian nationals in Russia investigation It's likely about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: ... Here we go: Let's see who's up next... We have to be safe to assume this has to do with corruption right, and not the Mueller investigation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, GG said: Interesting all these things hit Friday afternoons, before a long weekend. Yup. Almost like a long time entertainer who understands the news cycle better than most pols is in the Oval. Though, I'm not certain these indictments will be related to this case... good chance it could be unrelated. We'll find out soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 millions of indictments, never a conviction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, row_33 said: millions of indictments, never a conviction Hard to secure a conviction on Russian nationals living in Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 when Putin throw someone to the wolves it's always been for the good of christendom and happiness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Hard to secure a conviction on Russian nationals living in Russia. Uranium One? Edit, no I see now it is for interfering in out elections. Edited February 16, 2018 by Cinga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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