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It's amazing how this was never an issue for like 80 years and then suddenly these idiots are ruining playoff games over it.   #DezShotFirst

 

One of the worst aspects of human nature is the need to 'fix' things that aren't broken.   

[See also:  replay, Instant.]

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  On 3/21/2018 at 5:21 PM, GoBills808 said:

This won't help IMO. #3 is a dealbreaker...just use 'control' (nebulous but at least familiar) and 2 feet/body part down. Full stop.

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It's good that they got rid of that surviving the ground nonsense.

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  On 3/21/2018 at 5:26 PM, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

It's good that they got rid of that surviving the ground nonsense.

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The 'survive the ground' concept I never understood...a play is supposedly dead when a runner is down (this is by contact, obviously, but it should apply equally and just as easily to a guy who's caught a pass without being touched), so as soon as he hits the deck he's technically down. What they did was extend the life of a given play beyond what was ever intended...they didn't just make a horrible catch rule, they broke the laws of football-spacetime.

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  On 3/21/2018 at 5:19 PM, LabattBlue said:

I see the "football move" nonsense is still part of the catch rule.

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  On 3/21/2018 at 5:21 PM, GoBills808 said:

This won't help IMO. #3 is a dealbreaker...just use 'control' (nebulous but at least familiar) and 2 feet/body part down. Full stop.

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It has to be included, otherwise the moment the ball hits a guy's hands with 2 feet down, he'll be awarded a catch.  With the ability to slow down replay, there needs to be a 3rd component of a catch.

 

It can't be a time requirement, because you'd be drawing an arbitrary line in the sand.  The ability to perform a football move is a catch-all that allows for some discretion.

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  On 3/21/2018 at 5:34 PM, thebandit27 said:

 

 

It has to be included, otherwise the moment the ball hits a guy's hands with 2 feet down, he'll be awarded a catch.  With the ability to slow down replay, there needs to be a 3rd component of a catch.

 

It can't be a time requirement, because you'd be drawing an arbitrary line in the sand.  The ability to perform a football move is a catch-all that allows for some discretion.

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I don't think anybody will mistake a ball hitting a guy's hands for control.

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  On 3/21/2018 at 5:36 PM, GoBills808 said:

I don't think anybody will mistake a ball hitting a guy's hands for control.

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When a team challenges a catch, and the super-duper-slo-mo replay shows control prior to the ball being dislodged, how do you decide at which point it becomes a catch?

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