Beane's Transactions

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

47 minutes ago, Saosin said:

Apologies that I don't spend the majority of my day posting responses on an internet forum.  I've been here 12 years and browse this website everyday.  Don't get me wrong - I wrote a "douchey" post, and deserved your response; I get where you're coming from overall, and I'll address those issues below, but you're just as guilty as I am for "blindly trashing" people if you're going to just assume that I'm an idiot based upon my post count and one emotional response to what I believed to be a troll topic.

 

You trashed former BBMB members blindly and you admitted being harsh. Kudos. 

 

WRT your post count, maybe if you interacted with the exiles more you might have been more rational and not  blasted a group but the few individuals.

 

There are a lot of new members that joined after the shutdown.  That does not mean all new members, good and bad, are from there.  

 

 

 

Edited January 27, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan

[John from Riverside]

35 minutes ago, Ittakestime said:

 

The 3rd will be a couple picks away from the 4th hence the word essentially

Why do you keep moving the goalposts when people continue to make you look challenged

 

IT IS A THIRD ROUND PICK

[nedboy7]

It’s a valid good post. If it’s your opinion that none of it’s true cause we made the playoffs then have a dose of your medicine and admit tyrod got us to the playoffs and he should come back. Come on man! 

[Ittakestime]

29 minutes ago, John from Hemet said:

Why do you keep moving the goalposts when people continue to make you look challenged

 

IT IS A THIRD ROUND PICK

 

65th pick is way different than 95th

[hondo in seattle]

19 hours ago, Ittakestime said:

 

 

I just think it's way too early in Beane's tenure to judge him.  

 

Imagine judging Bill Belichick after his 6-10 rookie season as a HC in Cleveland.  

 

Or consider Tex Schramm - widely regarded as one of the best GMs in NFL history - who needed 7 years to achieve a winning record in Dallas.  Lots of mistakes were made in those years.   Yet Schramm then went on a streak of 20 consecutive winning seasons, including five SB appearances.   You can now find Schramm's bust in Canton.  

 

Beane hasn't conducted his first draft yet and people are already judging and condemning him.  

 

The irony of the OP's screen name - Ittakestime - had already been noted.  Now let's give Beane some.

Edited January 27, 2018 by hondo in seattle

[NastyNateSoldiers]

3 hours ago, Commonsense said:

Being critical of him for trading down with the Chiefs and not the Texans on the draft day trade when he was still working for the Panthers. 

 

Yikes. 

We all know who's really in charge its Mcd no doubt about it.  He did us a disservice by making the deal with his buddy Andy instead of making the right decision for the Bills. Hou was the obvious choice to make a deal with they were the worst of the 2 teams and definitely had the worst QB of the 2 in a unproven Savage. Make no mistake about it Hou was looking to make a deal and its easy to see when u wanna get in a spot you start calling teams in advance.  

[3rdand12]

Much too early to judge the new Staff.

Rebuilding takes time and patience. let us stay tuned in.

 

anyone notice no real leaks about Coaching changes ?
Bills have effectively tightened up the FO Since McBeanes and Pegula shook hands.

Have no idea what they have in mind. A bit of fun for me to consider what happens after the Super Bowl, and then what players they acquire.

 I remain positive and hopeful. Love the underdog as well.  Go Bills 

14 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

We all know who's really in charge its Mcd no doubt about it.  He did us a disservice by making the deal with his buddy Andy instead of making the right decision for the Bills. Hou was the obvious choice to make a deal with they were the worst of the 2 teams and definitely had the worst QB of the 2 in a unproven Savage. Make no mistake about it Hou was looking to make a deal and its easy to see when u wanna get in a spot you start calling teams in advance.  

likely a favor being returned to Andy Reid and a sense of good sportsmanship. I have no problem with it except i did not want him traded so soon.

[OldTimer1960]

18 hours ago, billsfan11 said:

I didn't like the Dareus trade.

 

Besides that, I am Ok with the other moves.

 

Got to give him a few years, because the draft will determine if Beane is a good GM or not

Dareus only tries when he feels like it, which isn’t really very often.  He makes huge money for his spotty effort, doesn’t get and keep himself in shape and has missed a lot of time due to suspension and injury.  Other than that, I am outraged that they traded him for a low draft pick.

[NastyNateSoldiers]

17 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

Much too early to judge the new Staff.

Rebuilding takes time and patience. let us stay tuned in.

 

anyone notice no real leaks about Coaching changes ?
Bills have effectively tightened up the FO Since McBeanes and Pegula shook hands.

Have no idea what they have in mind. A bit of fun for me to consider what happens after the Super Bowl, and then what players they acquire.

 I remain positive and hopeful. Love the underdog as well.  Go Bills 

likely a favor being returned to Andy Reid and a sense of good sportsmanship. I have no problem with it except i did not want him traded so soon.

Reid should return the favor then and trade us Smith for a 5th rder.

[CommonCents]

37 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

We all know who's really in charge its Mcd no doubt about it.  He did us a disservice by making the deal with his buddy Andy instead of making the right decision for the Bills. Hou was the obvious choice to make a deal with they were the worst of the 2 teams and definitely had the worst QB of the 2 in a unproven Savage. Make no mistake about it Hou was looking to make a deal and its easy to see when u wanna get in a spot you start calling teams in advance.  

I think McD was in charge over a sunken Whaley but from how I understand it Beane is now the  guy in charge of handling the personnel.

[Doc]

58 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

We all know who's really in charge its Mcd no doubt about it.  He did us a disservice by making the deal with his buddy Andy instead of making the right decision for the Bills. Hou was the obvious choice to make a deal with they were the worst of the 2 teams and definitely had the worst QB of the 2 in a unproven Savage. Make no mistake about it Hou was looking to make a deal and its easy to see when u wanna get in a spot you start calling teams in advance.  

 

Stop with the revisionist history.  The Texans never came calling and even if they did, they and the Chefs were both playoff teams from the year before in weak divisions and their chances of going to the playoffs again were similar. 

[RobH063]

20 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Beane picked right up where "Whaley" left off trading in the first round with Kansas City instead of.....ya' know......reaching out to QB-destitute Houston? and costing themselves the #4 pick in the draft..........and not picking up the Watkins 5th year option then selling him low........which did huge damage to the Bills 2017 offense and SW was poised for a huge year, which in a weak WR draft like this one, he'd be worth at least a late first round pick in trade instead of a late second rounder if you needed trade capital. 

 

This is really about McD's call on these issues.   It's more than unlikely that Whaley would have wanted to pass on SW's 5th year option if it were up to him.   We know McD's connection to Andy Reid was most likely how KC got that 1st round deal and the subsequent Ragland deal hooked up.  

 

They certainly didn't win 9 games because of any moves once Beane arrived......if anything they did it in spite of those moves.

Beane wasn't even with the Bills during the draft so how is he responsible for not reaching out to "QB-Destitute Houston"?

 

Beane also wasn't responsible for not picking up Watkins 5th year option. That was announced on May 2nd and Beane got to Buffalo on May 9th.

 

Whaley did a nice job finding cast offs from other teams to plug in when players got hurt and he is a good college scout but he didn't do that great of a job drafting and he was not a be-all-end-all GM like you're insinuating he was. Hell, if he was still in Buffalo and had his way, EJ Manual would still be the starting QB and we'd be at 18 years and still counting!

[NastyNateSoldiers]

14 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Stop with the revisionist history.  The Texans never came calling and even if they did, they and the Chefs were both playoff teams from the year before in weak divisions and their chances of going to the playoffs again were similar. 

Not really when u got a young unproven QB like Savage heading into the season. I'd be willing to bet vs that team.  Kc had been to the playoffs every season since Andy Reid got there they are a better team then Hou.

[RobH063]

17 hours ago, cba fan said:

Not trying to be negative but:

 

It's Nervous Nellie

and

Negative Nancy. 

 

I like what you did though. I give you points. Carry on.

But it is Rocket Surgeon right? I've been people that all week

[BillsFan130]

1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Dareus only tries when he feels like it, which isn’t really very often.  He makes huge money for his spotty effort, doesn’t get and keep himself in shape and has missed a lot of time due to suspension and injury.  Other than that, I am outraged that they traded him for a low draft pick.

Lol ok, you’re entitled to you opinion.

 

I would have kept him for one more year because he counts against the cap anyways and then cut him after that.

 

Theur run defence got a lot worse when he left. And they were in the middle of a playoff push

[Doc]

58 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

Not really when u got a young unproven QB like Savage heading into the season. I'd be willing to bet vs that team.  Kc had been to the playoffs every season since Andy Reid got there they are a better team then Hou.

 

Osweiler was no great shakes for them last year (59% passing, 5.8 YPA, and 15 TD's passing and 2 TD's rushing to 16 INT's and 1 fumble lost) and they still won the division.  

[John from Riverside]

4 hours ago, Ittakestime said:

 

65th pick is way different than 95th

and?

[Doc]

18 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

Lol ok, you’re entitled to you opinion.

 

I would have kept him for one more year because he counts against the cap anyways and then cut him after that.

 

Theur run defence got a lot worse when he left. And they were in the middle of a playoff push

 

It looked like a mistake at the time but the Bills still made the playoffs without him.  Keeping him means he ties up even more money for 2018 for a part-time non-dominant player, still shows up late and still doesn't buy into the process.  It was best for both sides to move on.

[John from Riverside]

19 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

Lol ok, you’re entitled to you opinion.

 

I would have kept him for one more year because he counts against the cap anyways and then cut him after that.

 

Theur run defence got a lot worse when he left. And they were in the middle of a playoff push

I think everyone would have liked to got more for Marcel then we got the problem is

 

- He is a complete gamble......now the jags get to hold their breath in the offseason instead of us to see if he is gonna get in trouble again.....cant stay away from the weed.  Wont stay in shape.....constant discipline problem for showing up late to team meetings...you heard the story right?

 

- We missed his run support.....but the fact of the matter is past the first year the guy has not lived up to the massive contract he was given.  I dont know about you but I expect a lot more out of a 100 million dollar DT then what he was giving......did it negatively affect the team on the field this year?  Yes....did it massively affect it?  No the D was pretty good.

 

I fully expect that they are going to address this position.....either in the draft high or a quality free agent.

[BuffaloBillsMagic1]

I dont mind the trades but overall seemed like we should have gotten higher draft picks