Luxy312 Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, simool said: Okay maybe I over embellished there, no one really knows except Dorsey. I have read a couple of reputable sources speculating on it in the last day or so. Listening to a local radio show that has been around as long as I have been in Wisconsin, brought me around to this line of thinking. The host believes Dorsey is going to draft the best player in the draft and a majority of people feel it is Barkley. He felt Cleveland was content taking a QB at 4. At first I was like there is no way they are going to miss out on Rosen or Darnold. But listening a bit longer, he implied that Dorsey likes a different QB and that Darnold and Rosen both have flaws. Barkley has no flaws. He knows Dorsey and has good inside Packers information. It is the scenario that seems to make the most sense to me right now. What sources exactly?
26CornerBlitz Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Just now, dneveu said: No, of course they wont. But when the franchise as it stands has literally never had a starting QB, it might be worth it to invest in it. They're at least a year out from competing - you get a full year with both of them and trade the extra piece a year later to a team for a 1st and change. Yes - its not maximizing your assets. Just looking at it from the perspective of the parade of terrible players they've had since tim couch... and how its corresponded to being the worst team in the league for an absurdly long time. With Dorsey, Wolf, and Highsmith around they'll make good football decisions as I mentioned in the Giants #2 thread.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: With Dorsey, Wolf, and Highsmith around they'll make good football decisions as I mentioned in the Giants #2 thread. Yeah - just throwing a bold idea out there. If they go non-QB at 1, then teams begin looking to trade up to 3 if theres a certain QB they want. Going to be a bizarre offseason and leadup to the draft. Edited January 26, 2018 by dneveu
26CornerBlitz Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 1 minute ago, dneveu said: Yeah - just throwing a bold idea out there. If they go non-QB at 1, then teams begin looking to trade up to 3 if theres a certain QB they want. Going to be a bizarre offseason and leadup to the draft. Can't see it playing out like that.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Can't see it playing out like that. So you're saying they just pick their guy at 1?
nucci Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 40 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said: How can Cleveland draft a quarterback overall at 1, and expect to retain said player (if they become a franchise guy), Myles Garrett, and whomever is BPA at 4? Maybe they are the most logical trade partner? Why wouldn't they be able to keep them? Plus they'll both be on rookie contracts for 5 years
26CornerBlitz Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, dneveu said: So you're saying they just pick their guy at 1? That's the way I see it. Whichever QB prospect they have at # 1 they select. It's a deep RB class and they can get a good one in later rounds, but their top priority as a franchise is to secure a QB as stated by Haslam and Dorsey. Edited January 26, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That's the way I see it. Whichever QB prospect they have at # 1 the select. It's a deep RB class and they can get a good one in later rounds, but their top priority as a franchise is to secure a QB as stated by Haslam and Dorsey. I'm not saying it's likely, but assuming they have their top 3 QBs graded virtually the same (within reason) then they might pick up whomever they believe is the best player in the draft at 1 and take the remaining QB, or potentially a choice if Indy stays put, from the remaining 2. Crazier things have happened!
26CornerBlitz Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I'm not saying it's likely, but assuming they have their top 3 QBs graded virtually the same (within reason) then they might pick up whomever they believe is the best player in the draft at 1 and take the remaining QB, or potentially a choice if Indy stays put, from the remaining 2. Crazier things have happened! Doesn't make much sense to me because they'll have a favorite based on film study and in-depth interviews with each QB prospect. Why even mess around with their terrible history at the single most important position in major team sports?
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That's the way I see it. Whichever QB prospect they have at # 1 the select. It's a deep RB class and they can get a good one in later rounds, but their top priority as a franchise is to secure a QB as stated by Haslam and Dorsey. Always the chance that they just sign a cousins or something too. They're in a unique spot with that much cap room. You could literally eat like 75 million in year 1 signing bonus to keep base salaries low for the life of the deal. You'd risk a hold out or something, but its hard to argue for a holdout when you got a huge guarantee paid out up front.
KollegeStudnet Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) Cleveland grabs Barkley at #1 swing for the fences for Mayfield. Wouldn’t be surprised to see the Bills jump up before Cleveland picks at #3. Edited January 26, 2018 by KollegeStudnet
BigPappy Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 13 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I'm not saying it's likely, but assuming they have their top 3 QBs graded virtually the same (within reason) then they might pick up whomever they believe is the best player in the draft at 1 and take the remaining QB, or potentially a choice if Indy stays put, from the remaining 2. Crazier things have happened! Are the Giants and Indy going to take a QB this year? I don't think they will. Certainly not the Giants anyway. Eli still has some tread on his tires for them, and supposedly Luck is going to be back next year and able to actually play. I guess we'll know for certain on Luck come draft day. If neither plan on taking a QB there is merit to what your thinking. On the flip side, Cleveland tend to do idiotic stuff; more so than the Bills so.....who really knows.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Lots of people looking at what the Browns might do through the hopeful prism of a Bills' fan perspective it seems to me. 1
BigPappy Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, KollegeStudnet said: Cleveland grabs Barkley at #1 swing for the fences for Mayfield. Wouldn’t be surprised to see the Bills jump up before Cleveland picks at #3. Sorry....I don't see that happening at all. Beane and McD are not going to sell the farm to get to the 3rd pick. It would cost them way to much and now with Wood retiring, they have another spot to fill. They need all the picks they have. If their top QB choice falls to 10 or 11 and he still has not been picked then yeah i can see them putting together a deal, but not at 3...No way!
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Inside sources tell me that the Browns will take either Darnold or Rosen with the first pick. Not even they can !@#$ this up.....oh wait a minute! Yes they can
BigPappy Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 1 minute ago, horned dogs said: Inside sources tell me that the Browns will take either Darnold or Rosen with the first pick. Not even they can !@#$ this up.....oh wait a minute! Yes they can Even if the didn't !@#$ up the pick, they'll !@#$ the QB they do take. They do it every time.
Luxy312 Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 If Cleveland believes any of the QB's are head and shoulders above the others, they MUST take them with the #1 pick. Kizer was a dumpster fire and the possibility of 2 QB's coming off the board between 1 and 4 is just too much.
cage Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, simool said: It is pretty much common knowledge that they are going to take Barkley 1st. No chance.... their only pick is a QB, especially after trading out of the Deshaun Watson spot last year. If waited to #4 to pick a QB and 1-2 teams jumped in front of them that would have to be an immediately fireable offense. They need to determine who their best QB prospect is and select him #1, case closed! Imagine ending up with the 2nd or 3rd QB picked, have him be a bust and 1-2 of the guys selected ahead of you become perennial Pro Bowlers.... I have no inside knowledge whatsoever, but guaranteeing that Browns take QB #1, no other option. Edited January 26, 2018 by cage
simool Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Luxy312 said: What sources exactly? Joe Thomas was the first one I heard mention it, but more along the lines of if he was drafting. Then earlier this week a reporter from the orange and brown report filed a report from the senior bowl which said as much. https://scout.com/nfl/browns/Article/Would-John-Dorsey-take-the-best-available-player-and-possibly-pass-up-the-quarterback-at-number-one-114144681 I have read it a couple of other places I will try to dig up and post back for you. The discussion I heard was on FM 100.5 here and it was the Homer True show. Edited January 26, 2018 by simool 1
xxxxxxxx Posted January 26, 2018 Author Posted January 26, 2018 1 hour ago, nucci said: Why wouldn't they be able to keep them? Plus they'll both be on rookie contracts for 5 years Retain. As in sign them to longterm deals, after 5 years is up.
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