Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 32 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Groy is the leader in the clubhouse, but with 3 holes on the OL now, those who wanted to draft an RB will likely be disappointed. This could also impact Buffalo's ability to move up, unless there are good FA center options. Replacing Wood is a serious monkey in the wrench for the Bills off-season. Why don't we see how free agency plays out...? It starts like 2 months before the draft.
John from Riverside Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 It is coming out that Wood was going to retire this year no matter what......maybe the plan to keep Groy all of a sudden starts to make more sense?
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: This is a very real and natural place to go after hearing the news but one of the things that's really starting to turn me off about football. I don't blame you at all for starting the thread and it's a discussion to have but brutal to hear about a guy being forced into retirement and having this be one of the first items we are forced to turn to as a fanbase or organization. I hear ya, Chuck, but I don't think it is really football to blame as much as it is our internet culture. 7 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: Regardless of how the Bills decide to address the issue, without a doubt throws a big monkey in their prior plans for FA and Draft. It will be interesting to see how Beane and company adjust... Yes. Truly C was not a spot they were considering they'd have to fill this offseason...or for a few years, for that matter. Edited January 26, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts 1
mjd1001 Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Wood is a great buy (it seems) and an above average center. He does have a couple bad games a year, but overall was a plus for the team. With Wood gone...Incognito maybe gone? (or at least he is getting older), Glenn maybe gone, we could be looking at a HUGE question mark for the ENTIRE line next year.
corta765 Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 51 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: First of all, thank you Eric for your service here and we all wish you well. We now need to look for his replacement. Do we go the free agent route, draft pick or next man up? Is Groy the replacement or are we looking to draft one of this class's top centers? This class has quite a few options at the center position but this would be something that would need to be taken in the 1st or 2nd round. Or do we hit the market and try to sign a guy like Ryan Jensen who was a first year starter this year for Baltimore but played like on of the top ones in the game. He's already stated that he's excited to see where this offseason takes him so he may be available. The more and more the offseason goes on, the more I think we will not be trading any of these picks to get a QB. Now we have another huge hole on the roster that needs to be filled. What are you thoughts on replacing wood? Groy all day. When he filled in before the line was quite good and I would want to give him a full chance before even thinking of looking elsewhere.
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: I love Hubbard and if Groy is looking good at Center we can kick him outside at RT or even at guard . Hubbard can play all 5 spots on the line he'll be in demand this offseason. After re-signing some of our own, Hubbard is one of, if not the, priority FA for me. Provides a lot of value and won't break the bank, despite that I agree he will have suitors. 3 minutes ago, dneveu said: Why don't we see how free agency plays out...? It starts like 2 months before the draft. Because people discuss these things on a Buffalo Bills message board.
corta765 Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Just now, mjd1001 said: Wood is a great buy (it seems) and an above average center. He does have a couple bad games a year, but overall was a plus for the team. With Wood gone...Incognito maybe gone? (or at least he is getting older), Glenn maybe gone, we could be looking at a HUGE question mark for the ENTIRE line next year. Expect something like this: Dawkins Incognito Groy Miller (due to scheme shifting back to his strength) RT-Draft pick or FA 1
Chuck Wagon Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: I hear ya, Chuck, but I don't think it is really football to blame as much as it is our internet culture. Yes. Truly C was not a spot they were considering theyd have to fill this offseason...or for a few years, for that matter. Thanks dude. I get it. I said it's a natural thought to think about replacements and view these guys just as X's and O's on our TVs. Just something that's starting to turn me off as I am now getting older than the majority of guys still playing. I didn't mean to attack anyone or incite anything.
Tatonka68 Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: There’s a good cchance that he doesn’t make it out of round 1. There’s no chance that he makes it out of round 2. Dark horse is Bradley Bozeman, played at Alabama for Daboll. He knows if he is NFL Caliber. 2
Freddie's Dead Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, dneveu said: Why don't we see how free agency plays out...? It starts like 2 months before the draft. Nah, time to panic.
jr1 Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 maybe draft someone like Bradley Bozeman to learn from Groy
RyanC883 Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 53 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Could be both that would be idea as Price is also a solid guard. Price likely is picked before our pick, IMO. If not Price, I see us grabbing OL help early.
boyst Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Who can we draft to replace him after we move up to number 2??? 1
RyanC883 Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Just now, jr1 said: maybe draft someone like Bradley Bozeman to learn from Groy I like this option a lot, and our OC would be familiar with him.
xsoldier54 Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 57 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: This is a very real and natural place to go after hearing the news but one of the things that's really starting to turn me off about football. I don't blame you at all for starting the thread and it's a discussion to have but brutal to hear about a guy being forced into retirement and having this be one of the first items we are forced to turn to as a fanbase or organization. I don't get it. Nobody is being disrespectful to Eric Wood. Knowing that he won't be here, it's natural for people to start wondering "What do we do now at center?" It's just speculation on where the team will go in his absence. Everyone here wishes him and his family well moving forward, but he will have to be replaced by someone. 2
MrEpsYtown Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) Fun fact, Groy spent about a month on the Patriots roster in 2015 while Daboll was there, so there is some crossover. It's not a big connection, but they are familiar with each other and one would assume he is the type of lineman who fit the scheme. Also, I know we all hate Juan Castillo, but if he is back Ryan Jensen would be a nice get in free agency. Jensen developed under Castillo and had a really nice year in his first year as a starter. He's 26 years old. He can also play guard. Honestly I'd sign Jensen and have Groy. One plays center, one plays RG. Edited January 26, 2018 by MrEpsYtown
The Now Moment Posted January 26, 2018 Author Posted January 26, 2018 21 minutes ago, corta765 said: Groy all day. When he filled in before the line was quite good and I would want to give him a full chance before even thinking of looking elsewhere. I'd be bringing in someone to compete. I'm not just going to hand him the job. I'd draft someone and have them compete. We need depth too and Incognito is old and RG is up for grabs too. We could use a few new lineman
SaviorPeterman Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 44 minutes ago, BillsCuse said: What's the salary cap implications? He just signed a 2 year extension this year. Will there be a dead cap like him being cut? Or would the Bills recoup all that $ since he is retiring? And not trying to be insensitive to him, he's a great guy and player. Just wondering since roughly $8 million a year is a big chunk for cap reasons We are in big trouble unfortunately because of the extension, will seriously hamper this teams offseason plans now because of the impending $10 million cap hit. Groy is probably going to be the guy by default but this obviously opens up another glaring hole to pursue in FA and the draft.
NewEraBills Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 It'll be interesting to see what takes place. I'm disappointed for Eric. He was a classic lunchpail guy. The issue I'm seeing right now is that the OL outside of Dawkins and Incognito is in shambles. We're not sure of what will happen with Glenn. The entire right side needs to be upgraded.
Big Turk Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think it's Groy. We brought him back for a hefty price for a back up. It wasn't really that hefty.
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