TheFunPolice Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think he is plenty intelligent, in a general sense. Football acumen though is questionable. That's what I was trying to say... should have been a bit clearer!
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: i can't remember exact stats, but i think it was something like 7/10 80yds. td. one incomplete hit benjamin in the hands and i believe there was another catch able drop too. i don't care it was garbage time. if tyrod could have done the same thing, he would have still been in the game. Here's why I can't get behind this logic. Let's fast forward just 1 week. In the 2nd half against the Chargers Tyrod was 15/25 for 158 and a TD, and had 4 runs for 38 yards and another TD. If Nate could have done the same thing he would still be the starter.
jrober38 Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 This has got to be a smoke screen. The Bills actually want the QB who no one thinks they want.
billsredneck1 Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 45 minutes ago, SaviorPeterman said: Just an FYI, Bucky Gleason who's well connected in Orchard Park circles wrote a piece on the Buffalo news today pretty much saying that reading between the lines he expects Nathan Peterman to be the starter in 2018. You have to be a paying member to read but here's the link: http://buffalonews.com/2018/01/24/bucky-gleason-looking-for-bills-next-starting-qb-he-could-be-under-your-nose/ "Looking for the next starting QB? He could be right under your nose" i'd love to read it,but i'm in rochester so i don't want to subscribe.
GunnerBill Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, jrober38 said: This has got to be a smoke screen. The Bills actually want the QB who no one thinks they want. I think there might be something in that too. If they are blowing lots of Darnold smoke (and maybe they are, maybe they aren't) it suggests to me Darnold is not their guy.
Kirby Jackson Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 13 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: i'll give you an example of what i see in him. you can watch a youtube video of his 4th qtr. drive against n.o. i can't remember exact stats, but i think it was something like 7/10 80yds. td. one incomplete hit benjamin in the hands and i believe there was another catch able drop too. i don't care it was garbage time. if tyrod could have done the same thing, he would have still been in the game. my point is that's what i want/expect to see out of our qb. he's decisive, quick and his ball placement is as good as you could possibly want. i think with a full off season, it' very possible that we could see that kind of play week in and week out. that kind of play gets us the winning records and playoff. I appreciate the response. The only thing that I take issue with is “ball placement is as good as you could possibly want.” That can’t be the case for a guy that completed less than 50 % of his passes. That’s a guy that’s inaccurate.
billsredneck1 Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Here's why I can't get behind this logic. Let's fast forward just 1 week. In the 2nd half against the Chargers Tyrod was 15/25 for 158 and a TD, and had 4 runs for 38 yards and another TD. If Nate could have done the same thing he would still be the starter. but that was garbage time! 1 2
jrober38 Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, GunnerBill said: I think there might be something in that too. If they are blowing lots of Darnold smoke (and maybe they are, maybe they aren't) it suggests to me Darnold is not their guy. There was a ton of misinformation last year. I don't know if the Darnold info is real, but I suspect that the Peterman info is totally a lie. I think they want the NFL to think they're good with what they've got at QB, but I feel like this could lead to them being really aggressive in trying to get a QB on draft day. I hope Mayfield is the guy they want. I think he can play immediately and make the offense better.
billsredneck1 Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: There was a ton of misinformation last year. I don't know if the Darnold info is real, but I suspect that the Peterman info is totally a lie. I think they want the NFL to think they're good with what they've got at QB, but I feel like this could lead to them being really aggressive in trying to get a QB on draft day. I hope Mayfield is the guy they want. I think he can play immediately and make the offense better. if a few of these qb needy teams make some fa/trade moves at qb, maybe just maybe he will slide.....
GunnerBill Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I appreciate the response. The only thing that I take issue with is “ball placement is as good as you could possibly want.” That can’t be the case for a guy that completed less than 50 % of his passes. That’s a guy that’s inaccurate. I have never thought he was that accurate. I feel like it is a cliche that is always applied to Quarterbacks with weaker arms "smart and accurate". I don't think Peterman was accurate in college.... he completed a lot of passes playing in a gimmicky short game offense... but his ball placement was no better than average. 5 minutes ago, jrober38 said: There was a ton of misinformation last year. The one I was on all the way through last year was the Bears pumping out "we are not going Quarterback." I had them taking a Quarterback in the 1st the whole way through. I ended up plumping for Watson in my final mock and not Trubisky but they were ALWAYS going Quarterback.
Royale with Cheese Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 I missed the part where we are going to replace all 3 linebackers....Milano was unimpressive or something LOL?
hondo in seattle Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 27 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: i'll give you an example of what i see in him. you can watch a youtube video of his 4th qtr. drive against n.o. i can't remember exact stats, but i think it was something like 7/10 80yds. td. one incomplete hit benjamin in the hands and i believe there was another catch able drop too. i don't care it was garbage time. if tyrod could have done the same thing, he would have still been in the game. my point is that's what i want/expect to see out of our qb. he's decisive, quick and his ball placement is as good as you could possibly want. i think with a full off season, it' very possible that we could see that kind of play week in and week out. that kind of play gets us the winning records and playoff. EJ had some good drives with us, too. So did JP and Trent Edwards. All these guys in the NFL have good enough arms that they can put together good drives. But can they do it consistently? NP had a truly miserable passer rating of 38 last season. There's just no evidence that he can deliver consistently. The only guy I can think of who looked as bad as NP did his rookie year and then developed into a good NFL QB is Steve DeBerg. And DeBerg never became that good. But in the end, I hope you and all the NP supporters are right.
billsredneck1 Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: EJ had some good drives with us, too. So did JP and Trent Edwards. All these guys in the NFL have good enough arms that they can put together good drives. But can they do it consistently? NP had a truly miserable passer rating of 38 last season. There's just no evidence that he can deliver consistently. The only guy I can think of who looked as bad as NP did his rookie year and then developed into a good NFL QB is Steve DeBerg. And DeBerg never became that good. But in the end, I hope you and all the NP supporters are right. i myself have to consider nates playing time....ie. la chargers, i don't think we had one decent receiver on the field that day and that pass rush beyond belief....fast forward to the snowiest game in history...then through in a few plays in ne with horrible play calling ... then to the last drive of a playoff game. i couldn't think of worse circumstances for a rookie to step into.
hondo in seattle Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: i myself have to consider nates playing time....ie. la chargers, i don't think we had one decent receiver on the field that day and that pass rush beyond belief....fast forward to the snowiest game in history...then through in a few plays in ne with horrible play calling ... then to the last drive of a playoff game. i couldn't think of worse circumstances for a rookie to step into. I don't disagree and don't claim the guy's the worst QB to ever don a Bills uniform. I just haven't seen enough in him to put him at the other end of the spectrum and envision him as a strong starter.
Freddie's Dead Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 Let's all hope this source is wrong. Peterman means a lost year next year, not building to anything.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Freddie's Dead said: Let's all hope this source is wrong. Peterman means a lost year next year, not building to anything. It means being in contention for the #1 overall pick in the 2019 draft. 1
Freddie's Dead Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: It means being in contention for the #1 overall pick in the 2019 draft. Oooh, can we get more compensatory picks too?
Canadian Bills Fan Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 Beane said they want to win now and not plan for the future so I cant see Peterman being their guy
YoloinOhio Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: I think there might be something in that too. If they are blowing lots of Darnold smoke (and maybe they are, maybe they aren't) it suggests to me Darnold is not their guy. Don’t forget this from last year at this time: Buffalo Bills May Be Considering Cardale Jones as the Starting QB in 2017 http://thebiglead.com/2017/02/13/buffalo-bills-may-be-considering-cardale-jones-as-the-starting-qb-in-2017/ 3 1
K-9 Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, SaviorPeterman said: Just an FYI, Bucky Gleason who's well connected in Orchard Park circles wrote a piece on the Buffalo news today pretty much saying that reading between the lines he expects Nathan Peterman to be the starter in 2018. You have to be a paying member to read but here's the link: http://buffalonews.com/2018/01/24/bucky-gleason-looking-for-bills-next-starting-qb-he-could-be-under-your-nose/ "Looking for the next starting QB? He could be right under your nose" Bucky Gleason couldn’t be any more less connected to both the Bills and Sabres if he tried. He has been purposely ignored, as have several in the local media, since 2011. That is a directive from on high. As as for the piece in today’s news, Bucky covered all the bases, with the idea of Petermen being just one of them. He expertly narrowed the QB question down to a free agent, a trade, a draft pick, or someone already on the roster.
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