buffaloboyinATL Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/23/2018 at 2:13 PM, teef said: not to bring up the past, but on the bbmb, hand size was an extremely sensitive topic. i still remember the great jimmy clausen thread of 2010. we never quite came back from that. Expand Kiper has never forgiven the Bills for "passing up" on Clausen. On 1/23/2018 at 2:14 PM, Livinginthepast said: Tom Brady = 9.38"?? Expand Hence the deflated balls... 1
teef Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/23/2018 at 2:15 PM, buffaloboyinATL said: Kiper has never forgiven the Bills for "passing up" on Clausen. Expand and i've never forgiven kiper for pretty much everything he's ever done professionally.
ddaryl Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) Here's some info to chew on and dissect and debate. https://www.quora.com/Which-NFL-QB-has-the-largest-hands Brady is not measured but rumor has it they're huge Quote Unfortunately there is no data on QB hand sizes before 2008, but one could assume that Big Ben would have quite large hands because of his height (6'5") as with Tom Brady (6'4") and Peyton Manning (6'5"). Expand Quote According to this form, that has charted hand size and their success rates in the NFL since 2008, Ryan Mallet has the largest hand size with 10.75 inches. Expand Edited January 23, 2018 by ddaryl 1
Mr. WEO Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 This is always the funniest of metrics. So useless, but it's fun to watch people go nuts over hand size.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 23, 2018 Author Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/23/2018 at 2:19 PM, Mr. WEO said: This is always the funniest of metrics. So useless, but it's fun to watch people go nuts over hand size. Expand I love draft season. The most manly of men ogling other men. Nothing wrong about it. 1 1
YoloinOhio Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/23/2018 at 2:15 PM, TheTruthHurts said: Overrated but every GM of the Bills wants a 6'4 rocket arm with huge hands. The accuracy and football IQ not that high on the list. Expand Pretty sure Beane said that they are, actually 1
PromoTheRobot Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/23/2018 at 1:56 PM, Kirby Jackson said: Expand "I can throw a football over a mountain. I have the best hands, Believe me." 2 1
Putin Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) We are not looking for a QB with big hands all he needs to is to hand of the ball to his RB Edited January 23, 2018 by Putin
PromoTheRobot Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 I hope everyone realises that you're lucky to get one or two QBs that can even be a decent starter, much less franchise quality, in a draft. Half the guys we are debating are destined to be duds. 1
Stank_Nasty Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) On 1/23/2018 at 2:23 PM, TheTruthHurts said: I love draft season. The most manly of men ogling other men. Nothing wrong about it. Expand as a fitness professional that works with a lot of young local athletes the combine is always a huge topic of discussion in my gym when it comes around and people would be astounded about how much discussion a nice powerful male buttocks can generate amongst a group of men. LOLOL. Edited January 23, 2018 by Stank_Nasty 1
Putin Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/23/2018 at 2:34 PM, PromoTheRobot said: I hope everyone realises that you're lucky to get one or two QBs that can even be a decent starter, much less franchise quality, in a draft. Half the guys we are debating are destined to be duds. Expand I don’t know the year after we got EJ seems like most of QB’s taken have worked out pretty good
PromoTheRobot Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) On 1/23/2018 at 2:39 PM, Putin said: I don’t know the year after we got EJ seems like most of QB’s taken have worked out pretty good Expand Starters, but elite? It's also too soon to know if they will stay at a high level. Edited January 23, 2018 by PromoTheRobot
K D Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/23/2018 at 2:19 PM, Mr. WEO said: This is always the funniest of metrics. So useless, but it's fun to watch people go nuts over hand size. Expand not sure why you would think this is useless. if you can't grip the football there's lots of issues that can arise. add to that, when it's cold the ball is as hard as a rock and when its warm the air expands if you leave it sitting in the sun. also if you ever get a chance to get your hands on a game ball, they are slippery as crap. the QB's and kickers do their best to break them in but the slick coating from the factory on the new game balls is killer. hand size is definitely not a worthless stat. it doesn't tell the whole story but it is a valuable piece of information 3 1
Mr. WEO Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/23/2018 at 2:40 PM, PromoTheRobot said: Starters, but elite? It's also too soon to know if they will stay at a high level. Expand Most QBs don't start at "elite"...
Stank_Nasty Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/23/2018 at 2:34 PM, PromoTheRobot said: I hope everyone realises that you're lucky to get one or two QBs that can even be a decent starter, much less franchise quality, in a draft. Half the guys we are debating are destined to be duds. Expand 100% true. but its fun to discuss.... the only thing that really irritates me is the people that act as thought they KNOW how any of these qb's will pan out. if history shows anything its that its basically a crap shoot. 1 1
DCOrange Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) On 1/23/2018 at 2:17 PM, ddaryl said: Here's some info to chew on and dissect and debate. https://www.quora.com/Which-NFL-QB-has-the-largest-hands Brady is not measured but rumor has it they're huge Expand To be fair, this only covers 2008-2013. Including 2014-2017, you get the follow list of semi-successful/jury's still out QBs with hands as small as Rudolph: Kaepernick Keenum Derek Carr Bridgewater Jimmy Garappolo Jared Goff Pat Mahomes Davis Webb Ryan Tannehill Edit: I was looking at 9 1/4 instead of 9 1/8. Bridgewater, Mahomes, and Webb all have bigger hands than Rudolph. Edited January 23, 2018 by DCOrange 1
PromoTheRobot Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/23/2018 at 2:43 PM, Stank_Nasty said: 100% true. but its fun to discuss.... the only thing that really irritates me is the people that act as thought they KNOW how any of these qb's will pan out. if history shows anything its that its basically a crap shoot. Expand QB fever. There's no known vaccine.
Stank_Nasty Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/23/2018 at 2:44 PM, PromoTheRobot said: QB fever. There's no known vaccine. Expand i'm so embarrassed to talk about some of the qb's that I've been mad about the bills passing on..... that list will go to the death bed with me. 1
Putin Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/23/2018 at 2:40 PM, PromoTheRobot said: Starters, but elite? Expand Starters that have potential to be elite , but how many elite QB’s do we even have playing today ? What maybe 3 or 4 ?
Mr. WEO Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/23/2018 at 2:42 PM, kdiggz said: not sure why you would think this is useless. if you can't grip the football there's lots of issues that can arise. add to that, when it's cold the ball is as hard as a rock and when its warm the air expands if you leave it sitting in the sun. also if you ever get a chance to get your hands on a game ball, they are slippery as crap. the QB's and kickers do their best to break them in but the slick coating from the factory on the new game balls is killer. hand size is definitely not a worthless stat. it doesn't tell the whole story but it is a valuable piece of information Expand The chart shown above proves it's not much of a factor. Also, the college ball isn't that much smaller than a pro ball, so why would gripping the ball become a problem?
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