buffaloboyinATL Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 1 minute ago, teef said: not to bring up the past, but on the bbmb, hand size was an extremely sensitive topic. i still remember the great jimmy clausen thread of 2010. we never quite came back from that. Kiper has never forgiven the Bills for "passing up" on Clausen. 1 minute ago, Livinginthepast said: Tom Brady = 9.38"?? Hence the deflated balls... 1
teef Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 Just now, buffaloboyinATL said: Kiper has never forgiven the Bills for "passing up" on Clausen. and i've never forgiven kiper for pretty much everything he's ever done professionally.
ddaryl Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) Here's some info to chew on and dissect and debate. https://www.quora.com/Which-NFL-QB-has-the-largest-hands Brady is not measured but rumor has it they're huge Quote Unfortunately there is no data on QB hand sizes before 2008, but one could assume that Big Ben would have quite large hands because of his height (6'5") as with Tom Brady (6'4") and Peyton Manning (6'5"). Quote According to this form, that has charted hand size and their success rates in the NFL since 2008, Ryan Mallet has the largest hand size with 10.75 inches. Edited January 23, 2018 by ddaryl 1
Mr. WEO Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 This is always the funniest of metrics. So useless, but it's fun to watch people go nuts over hand size.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 23, 2018 Author Posted January 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: This is always the funniest of metrics. So useless, but it's fun to watch people go nuts over hand size. I love draft season. The most manly of men ogling other men. Nothing wrong about it. 1 1
YoloinOhio Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Overrated but every GM of the Bills wants a 6'4 rocket arm with huge hands. The accuracy and football IQ not that high on the list. Pretty sure Beane said that they are, actually 1
PromoTheRobot Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 34 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: "I can throw a football over a mountain. I have the best hands, Believe me." 2 1
Putin Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) We are not looking for a QB with big hands all he needs to is to hand of the ball to his RB Edited January 23, 2018 by Putin
PromoTheRobot Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 I hope everyone realises that you're lucky to get one or two QBs that can even be a decent starter, much less franchise quality, in a draft. Half the guys we are debating are destined to be duds. 1
Stank_Nasty Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: I love draft season. The most manly of men ogling other men. Nothing wrong about it. as a fitness professional that works with a lot of young local athletes the combine is always a huge topic of discussion in my gym when it comes around and people would be astounded about how much discussion a nice powerful male buttocks can generate amongst a group of men. LOLOL. Edited January 23, 2018 by Stank_Nasty 1
Putin Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: I hope everyone realises that you're lucky to get one or two QBs that can even be a decent starter, much less franchise quality, in a draft. Half the guys we are debating are destined to be duds. I don’t know the year after we got EJ seems like most of QB’s taken have worked out pretty good
PromoTheRobot Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Putin said: I don’t know the year after we got EJ seems like most of QB’s taken have worked out pretty good Starters, but elite? It's also too soon to know if they will stay at a high level. Edited January 23, 2018 by PromoTheRobot
K D Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 18 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: This is always the funniest of metrics. So useless, but it's fun to watch people go nuts over hand size. not sure why you would think this is useless. if you can't grip the football there's lots of issues that can arise. add to that, when it's cold the ball is as hard as a rock and when its warm the air expands if you leave it sitting in the sun. also if you ever get a chance to get your hands on a game ball, they are slippery as crap. the QB's and kickers do their best to break them in but the slick coating from the factory on the new game balls is killer. hand size is definitely not a worthless stat. it doesn't tell the whole story but it is a valuable piece of information 3 1
Mr. WEO Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: Starters, but elite? It's also too soon to know if they will stay at a high level. Most QBs don't start at "elite"...
Stank_Nasty Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: I hope everyone realises that you're lucky to get one or two QBs that can even be a decent starter, much less franchise quality, in a draft. Half the guys we are debating are destined to be duds. 100% true. but its fun to discuss.... the only thing that really irritates me is the people that act as thought they KNOW how any of these qb's will pan out. if history shows anything its that its basically a crap shoot. 1 1
DCOrange Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, ddaryl said: Here's some info to chew on and dissect and debate. https://www.quora.com/Which-NFL-QB-has-the-largest-hands Brady is not measured but rumor has it they're huge To be fair, this only covers 2008-2013. Including 2014-2017, you get the follow list of semi-successful/jury's still out QBs with hands as small as Rudolph: Kaepernick Keenum Derek Carr Bridgewater Jimmy Garappolo Jared Goff Pat Mahomes Davis Webb Ryan Tannehill Edit: I was looking at 9 1/4 instead of 9 1/8. Bridgewater, Mahomes, and Webb all have bigger hands than Rudolph. Edited January 23, 2018 by DCOrange 1
PromoTheRobot Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said: 100% true. but its fun to discuss.... the only thing that really irritates me is the people that act as thought they KNOW how any of these qb's will pan out. if history shows anything its that its basically a crap shoot. QB fever. There's no known vaccine.
Stank_Nasty Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: QB fever. There's no known vaccine. i'm so embarrassed to talk about some of the qb's that I've been mad about the bills passing on..... that list will go to the death bed with me. 1
Putin Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: Starters, but elite? Starters that have potential to be elite , but how many elite QB’s do we even have playing today ? What maybe 3 or 4 ?
Mr. WEO Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, kdiggz said: not sure why you would think this is useless. if you can't grip the football there's lots of issues that can arise. add to that, when it's cold the ball is as hard as a rock and when its warm the air expands if you leave it sitting in the sun. also if you ever get a chance to get your hands on a game ball, they are slippery as crap. the QB's and kickers do their best to break them in but the slick coating from the factory on the new game balls is killer. hand size is definitely not a worthless stat. it doesn't tell the whole story but it is a valuable piece of information The chart shown above proves it's not much of a factor. Also, the college ball isn't that much smaller than a pro ball, so why would gripping the ball become a problem?
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