3rdand12 Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: Nice play by Gilmore. I'm happy we let him walk. Buh bye. not sure how to read this one Sig
Kirby Jackson Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, scribo said: Dareus was sitting on the sidelines when the Pats scored their winning TD. Tells me something that they had him out on the most important play of their season. You didn’t see him limp off the field? They stopped the game. 1
Foreigner Posted January 22, 2018 Author Posted January 22, 2018 Chuck Wagon There was also Ragland, and I don"t follow the NFC that close, so maybe or maybe not someone else.
snamsnoops Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Foreigner said: Marcel Dareus sack of Tom Brady today in the 4thQ could not get the Jacksonville a trip to the Super Bowl, but Stephon Gilmore with maybe a game saver, got the New England Pats to the Super Bowl. There is a old saying in sports "DON'T QUIT ON TALENT" and it is mind boggling all the talent the Bills gave away this year. I believed it's been repeated hundreds of times here, so I don't need to go into all the names, because you know who they are. For Cap space and Draft Choices? Why is it that the Pats never have these situations that hurt them? We even lost two guys off the practice squad to these guys this past season. Are the Pats that smarter? You all know the answer. Tom Brady! Edited January 22, 2018 by snamsnoops
Sig1Hunter Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: not sure how to read this one Sig He's a good player, but his value to the Bills right now was not there at his price point. IOW , what Kirby said.
oldmanfan Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 When someone who will be a FA wants to test the market then changes teams, you are not letting him go.
3rdand12 Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: This is easy for me. Gilmore is a nice player but at that price I’ll take Tre White 12 days a week. The Bills got that right. Dareus on the other hand was a mistake. He controls the middle of the field. He was a guy that they should have embraced. He was a monster today. I would take Tre at the same price now. I feel he is already more valuable at the moment. But I am biased admittedly Kirby. I did not watch the first half , but i did watch Marcel in the second. He played hard. Bills need to find something at DT that fills that gap Dareus left ( Pun Intended ) I am fine with Bills drafting one of these beasts early, Likely a fine starter to be had at DT and i hate to admit I feel , a rather excellent corner could be had when we pick. But Marcel needed a change of venue as did Gilmore. Bills will be the better for it. 2
Rob's House Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 I wouldn't mind having Gilmore on the roster, but odds are we'd have had to significantly outbid the Pats, he'd be largely wasted in our offense, we're not exactly weak at the position, and the cap space we saved gives us the ability to to obtain/retain other talent that's probably more valuable to the team. In short, I'm glad we let him walk even if he is good.
cba fan Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 23 minutes ago, scribo said: Dareus was sitting on the sidelines when the Pats scored their winning TD. Tells me something that they had him out on the most important play of their season. he was hurt dim witt. 1 1
K D Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: If Rex keeps Schwartz that 2015 team was loaded for a run in the playoffs. List of HC interviews in 2015 below. Almost all of them better than Rex. We already had one of the best defenses in the league and they hire a defensive coach??? Pick any of these offensive minded coaches and we are in the playoffs that year assuming we keep Schwartz as DC/Assistant HC. Choosing Rex set us back 3 yrs. Darrell Bevell, offensive coordinator, Seattle (Saturday, 1/3) Adam Gase, offensive coordinator, Denver (Saturday, 1/3) Dan Quinn, defensive coordinator, Seattle (Saturday, 1/3) Frank Reich, offensive coordinator, San Diego (Sunday, 1/4) Mike Shanahan, head coach (fmr.), Washington (Sunday, 1/4) Pat Shurmur, offensive coordinator, Philadelphia (Tuesday, 1/6) Hue Jackson, offensive coordinator, Cincinnati (Wednesday, 1/7) Rex Ryan, head coach (fmr.), New York Jets (Thursday, 1/8) Kyle Shanahan, offensive coordinator, Cleveland (Thursday, 1/8) Jim Schwartz, defensive coordinator, Buffalo (date N/A)
Foreigner Posted January 22, 2018 Author Posted January 22, 2018 You really want to keep a guy, you can figure out how to keep him. It seems the Pats always win the AFC because they know who to keep and who to let go. Cap or no Cap. There is a reason certain players on certain teams test the market. Has Brady ever tested the market. No, because he knows with Coaching and Management the Pats make the right decisions to be able to win.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, cba fan said: he was hurt dim witt.
Big Turk Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Foreigner said: Marcel Dareus sack of Tom Brady today in the 4thQ could not get the Jacksonville a trip to the Super Bowl, but Stephon Gilmore with maybe a game saver, got the New England Pats to the Super Bowl. There is a old saying in sports "DON'T QUIT ON TALENT" and it is mind boggling all the talent the Bills gave away this year. I believed it's been repeated hundreds of times here, so I don't need to go into all the names, because you know who they are. For Cap space and Draft Choices? Why is it that the Pats never have these situations that hurt them? We even lost two guys off the practice squad to these guys this past season. Are the Pats that smarter? You all know the answer. Chandler Jones led the league in sacks this year and they traded him for a guard who isn't even on their team anymore.... But because the Patriots did it, it was brilliant right? FYI the Pats do more of this stuff than anyone in the league. And you bring this up in the year the Bills did all this and broke a 17 year playoff drought? Where was their talent in the other 4 years they were here? GTFO with that BS. There is also an expression in management that getting the wrong people off the bus is far more important at first than getting the right people on the bus. That part has mostly been completed. Edited January 22, 2018 by matter2003
Kirby Jackson Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Chandler Jones led the league in sacks this year and they traded him for a guard who isn't even on their team anymore.... But because the Patriots did it, it was brilliant right? They also traded Jimmy Garropolo for a pick in the middle of the 2nd. They paid Gillislee $3.2M a year not to dress. They signed Scott Chandler!! The Patriots make a million personnel mistakes but they have Brady and Belichick. It covers it all up. Edited January 22, 2018 by Kirby Jackson 1
aceman_16 Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 44 minutes ago, Foreigner said: Marcel Dareus sack of Tom Brady today in the 4thQ could not get the Jacksonville a trip to the Super Bowl, but Stephon Gilmore with maybe a game saver, got the New England Pats to the Super Bowl. There is a old saying in sports "DON'T QUIT ON TALENT" and it is mind boggling all the talent the Bills gave away this year. I believed it's been repeated hundreds of times here, so I don't need to go into all the names, because you know who they are. For Cap space and Draft Choices? Why is it that the Pats never have these situations that hurt them? We even lost two guys off the practice squad to these guys this past season. Are the Pats that smarter? You all know the answer. I think the bold font makes your points seem smarter and absolutely incontrovertible.
Ray Finkel Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 42 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: If Rex keeps Schwartz that 2015 team was loaded for a run in the playoffs. Absolutely!
Foreigner Posted January 22, 2018 Author Posted January 22, 2018 Of course, no team makes PERFECT roster decisions, but the Pats unfortunately make less. If you have not just come back from Mars you know why they traded J.G. Sure, without Brady and Belichick it is a different story, but they always have the right pieces. We traded for a crippled WR from Carolina who needs surgery, and how will he come back? He is also the guy who pushed off in the end zone for a 10 yard penalty that maybe cost us the game. 1
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 Say no to Dareus and Gilmore, yes too White lol.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 43 minutes ago, scribo said: Dareus was sitting on the sidelines when the Pats scored their winning TD. Tells me something that they had him out on the most important play of their season. He went off the field with an injury at the time.
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