Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 I've watched the UFC since the very first one but am getting bored with most matches turning into kickboxing. I want to see all parts of fighting; the wrestling , the submissions and the striking. If this keeps up my pay per views could be over.
Fadingpain Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 I haven't really watched much of that, but that's interesting if the fights devolve into kickboxing affairs. I thought they almost all devolved into "jiujitsu" type stuff with both guys on the ground and one guy in a submission type hold. A lot of people seem to suggest that real hand to hand violence will almost always quickly result in both guys on the ground, at which point one guy is dead meat if he doesn't know how to get out of a hold, and the other guy knows how to get you in a hold. Hence the value of learning jiujitsu or judo or even traditional wrestling as opposed to other types of martial arts, which don't really "work" in real life....such as karate or aikido and lots of others.
Buffalo716 Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: I haven't really watched much of that, but that's interesting if the fights devolve into kickboxing affairs. I thought they almost all devolved into "jiujitsu" type stuff with both guys on the ground and one guy in a submission type hold. A lot of people seem to suggest that real hand to hand violence will almost always quickly result in both guys on the ground, at which point one guy is dead meat if he doesn't know how to get out of a hold, and the other guy knows how to get you in a hold. Hence the value of learning jiujitsu or judo or even traditional wrestling as opposed to other types of martial arts, which don't really "work" in real life....such as karate or aikido and lots of others. You are absolutely correct when it comes to most actual fights in life . Unless you are a straight KO artist most fights end on the ground we had a fight club when I was younger and bjj saved my ass more times than I can count
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 21, 2018 Author Posted January 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: You are absolutely correct when it comes to most actual fights in life . Unless you are a straight KO artist most fights end on the ground we had a fight club when I was younger and bjj saved my ass more times than I can count All Catch Wrestling for me. I feel it works better to control your opponent than jui jitsui
Buffalo716 Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: All Catch Wrestling for me. I feel it works better to control your opponent than jui jitsui It definitely can if you know how to wrestle which i do not lmao
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 21, 2018 Author Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, Buffalo716 said: It definitely can if you know how to wrestle which i do not lmao New York has great wrestling, you missed out. It's funny, I could have used a bunch of Catch when I was in school but never new it existed . When I learning it I was like ,man I could have used this back then lol.
Buffalo716 Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: New York has great wrestling, you missed out. It's funny, I could have used a bunch of Catch when I was in school but never new it existed . When I learning it I was like ,man I could have used this back then lol. Yea my best friend was an avid wrestler. We both played football and baseball but in the winter I ran indoor track to keep my 4.4 fourty and went to basketball my Sr year the wrestling coach bugged me for years lol wrestlers are a breed all their own, just wasn't cut from that cloth . They are phenomenal athletes who have stamina for days though 1
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 21, 2018 Author Posted January 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Yea my best friend was an avid wrestler. We both played football and baseball but in the winter I ran indoor track to keep my 4.4 fourty and went to basketball my Sr year the wrestling coach bugged me for years lol wrestlers are a breed all their own, just wasn't cut from that cloth . They are phenomenal athletes who have stamina for days though Yeah We're Crazy, I Still Miss It And Its Been 25 Years
Buffalo716 Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Yeah We're Crazy, I Still Miss It And Its Been 25 Years Go run around the track 20 times and report back how much you miss it
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 21, 2018 Author Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, Buffalo716 said: Go run around the track 20 times and report back how much you miss it Running ? what's that? Bodyweight circuits and Kettbells are much better, plus they build muscle too, can't beat that.
Buffalo716 Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Running ? what's that? Bodyweight circuits and Kettbells are much better, plus they build muscle too, can't beat that. I was referring to the cutting weight part in wrestling lol i would watch my friend run mile after mile after mile to make weight lol maybe he wasn't doing it right lol
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 21, 2018 Author Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, Buffalo716 said: I was referring to the cutting weight part in wrestling lol i would watch my friend run mile after mile after mile to make weight lol maybe he wasn't doing it right lol I didn't cut weight much, I tried one year and got my butt kicked, It just wasn't for me. It hit the gym and got stronger and quicker than everybody else.
Buffalo716 Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I didn't cut weight much, I tried one year and got my butt kicked, It just wasn't for me. It hit the gym and got stronger and quicker than everybody else. Thats a good plan. My friend walked around about 155 our sophomore year and he cut to the 120s to wrestle crazy
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 21, 2018 Author Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Thats a good plan. My friend walked around about 155 our sophomore year and he cut to the 120s to wrestle crazy Hell No, nope that's just misery, I wanted to be a beast not a munchkin. The year I cut , I got down to 130 from 140 then after that I started working out and got up to 165 in 2 months, I've been lifting ever since, 275 now, although need to lose some of this power belly. Edited January 21, 2018 by Buffalo Barbarian
Fadingpain Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 Did anyone see the recent UFC fight where the guy threw a flying knee kick into the other guy's head and put a big dent in it? Fractured skull. Pretty gruesome to see and hear.
Gugny Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 9 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: You are absolutely correct when it comes to most actual fights in life . Unless you are a straight KO artist most fights end on the ground we had a fight club when I was younger and bjj saved my ass more times than I can count Must have been one hell of a bj !! 1
Buffalo716 Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Must have been one hell of a bj !! You don't even know 1
Buffalo716 Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Gugny said: Must have been one hell of a bj !! My opponent was even more shocked 1
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 22, 2018 Author Posted January 22, 2018 16 hours ago, Fadingpain said: Did anyone see the recent UFC fight where the guy threw a flying knee kick into the other guy's head and put a big dent in it? Fractured skull. Pretty gruesome to see and hear. I have a bunch on the DVR that I plan on watching after football is over. Can't wait to see that.
Buffalo716 Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I have a bunch on the DVR that I plan on watching after football is over. Can't wait to see that. I think it was a few months ago i remember a guy getting a legit skull fracture a while back because of a flying knee to the skull it was horrific
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