Bakin Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 We arrive at pick 21 and both are available. Both meet Parcells whatever QB criteria to the tee. Mayfield is an exciting prospect and Rudolph is a big pocket passer. Both have limitations as do all young QBs. It would be less ‘interesting’ to take Rudolph despite his prototypical stature as a big tall Ben Roethlisberger type QB. I think i take Baker. Would be an exciting 3-4 year project. He just wins. I would then, in an ideal world, trade 22 to whoever wants Mason...and pick up an additional pick. In a ‘payback’ for the Dalton throw, Bills trade 22 to the Bengals (who draft Rudolph) for Their 2 x 2nd rounders (pick 13 and 14) and a 4th. My first 2 rounds would look like this: 1.21 - Baker Mayfield, QB 2.13 - James Washington, WR 2.14 - Martinas Rankin, OT/C 2.21 - Trenton Thompson, DT 2.23 - Malik Jefferson, LB Im fully prepared to take on the GM role now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) I highly doubt Mayfield makes it to #21. Rudolph is a third round prospect, imo, but he will be overdrafted because of the position. Edited January 21, 2018 by Dr. Who 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 If I had a choice, Mayfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Between those two, Mayfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Dr. Who said: I highly doubt Mayfield makes it to #21. Rudolph is a third round prospect, imo, but he will be overdrafted bacause of the position. ....doubt he makes it to #21 as well......but if he did, my wild, unsubstantiated "guess" is that Beane/McD pick Rudolph over Mayfield which would set off a firestorm of 3,829 "fire them now" threads......... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Bakin said: We arrive at pick 21 and both are available. Both meet Parcells whatever QB criteria to the tee. Mayfield is an exciting prospect and Rudolph is a big pocket passer. Both have limitations as do all young QBs. It would be less ‘interesting’ to take Rudolph despite his prototypical stature as a big tall Ben Roethlisberger type QB. I think i take Baker. Would be an exciting 3-4 year project. He just wins. I would then, in an ideal world, trade 22 to whoever wants Mason...and pick up an additional pick. In a ‘payback’ for the Dalton throw, Bills trade 22 to the Bengals (who draft Rudolph) for Their 2 x 2nd rounders (pick 13 and 14) and a 4th. My first 2 rounds would look like this: 1.21 - Baker Mayfield, QB 2.13 - James Washington, WR 2.14 - Martinas Rankin, OT/C 2.21 - Trenton Thompson, DT 2.23 - Malik Jefferson, LB Im fully prepared to take on the GM role now. I would LOVE this draft. However, it is about as unlikely as they come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Mayfield by a large margin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 It’s Baker and it isn’t close IMO. There’s no chance that he makes it to 21 though. The question should be pick 21 and 53 (and maybe a 4th) to get up to get Baker (if he gets to like 12) or stay put and take Rudolph. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....doubt he makes it to #21 as well......but if he did, my wild, unsubstantiated "guess" is that Beane/McD pick Rudolph over Mayfield which would set off a firestorm of 3,829 "fire them now" threads......... Picking Rudolph over Mayfield would indeed anger me. He's not nearly as good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Picking Rudolph over Mayfield would indeed anger me. He's not nearly as good. ....wish I had the opportunity to see college ball, but I don't, although I saw Mayfield for the 1st time in bowl game and was surprised he was a shotgun/spread guy......have to depend on what I read here and in the media as far as QB analyses.....saw where Beane personally scouted Rudolph in WVU and bowl game.....GUESSING (PURELY) he may fit the Beane/McD mold which will set off a meteor shower++ here...... Edited January 20, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: It’s Baker and it isn’t close IMO. There’s no chance that he makes it to 21 though. The question should be pick 21 and 53 (and maybe a 4th) to get up to get Baker (if he gets to like 12) or stay put and take Rudolph. My sense of Baker is that he is capable of starting in his rookie year. His temperament and confidence as much as his talent will force the issue of early playing time (my opinion). There is no doubt that both Rosen and Darnold are more prototypical sized qbs and style of play. Of the top prospects I consider Rosen as possessing the best pro ready passing game. Some of his college throws should be archived because they are so beautiful to watch. However, of all the prospects Mayfield is the most dynamic and compelling qb. He is a dynamo. My current feeling (subject to change of course) is that I hope the Bills will be aggressive and take the initiative to get Mayfield. He is the type of player that the fans in western NY would love and embrace. My fear with Rosen is that he wouldn't be too keen on coming to the area. It just doesn't seem like a good fit for the player or franchise. With Darnold I see his as being more receptive and adaptable. Again, just an opinion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....doubt he makes it to #21 as well......but if he did, my wild, unsubstantiated "guess" is that Beane/McD pick Rudolph over Mayfield which would set off a firestorm of 3,829 "fire them now" threads......... Unfortunately i see this as the most likely scenario. Were gonna be pissed. Heads will roll...Threads will swoll... Jeffismajic will still be btching bout Mahomes.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Mayfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P51 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 22 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Mayfield If available, if, Mayfield all day. More than likely need to trade up, if he’s the target and slides into the bottom of the top 10ish area. An move can be made while keeping several valuable higher picks this year, while moving an asset it 2019 if needed and still having quality draft capital in both the 18’ and 19’ drafts for other needs/value. IMO that is more realistic, should he slide out of the top 7 picks or so.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) Mayfield all day everyday... and Twice on Sunday's Edited January 22, 2018 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, P51 said: If available, if, Mayfield all day. More than likely need to trade up, if he’s the target and slides into the bottom of the top 10ish area. An move can be made while keeping several valuable higher picks this year, while moving an asset it 2019 if needed and still having quality draft capital in both the 18’ and 19’ drafts for other needs/value. IMO that is more realistic, should he slide out of the top 7 picks or so.. Many Talking Heads Dont Think He Will Go That High. 19 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Mayfield all day everyday... and Twice on Sunday's Twice On Sundays perfect. Love Have Your endorsement On Mayfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 On 1/20/2018 at 12:27 PM, Bakin said: We arrive at pick 21 and both are available. Both meet Parcells whatever QB criteria to the tee. Mayfield is an exciting prospect and Rudolph is a big pocket passer. Both have limitations as do all young QBs. It would be less ‘interesting’ to take Rudolph despite his prototypical stature as a big tall Ben Roethlisberger type QB. I think i take Baker. Would be an exciting 3-4 year project. He just wins. I would then, in an ideal world, trade 22 to whoever wants Mason...and pick up an additional pick. In a ‘payback’ for the Dalton throw, Bills trade 22 to the Bengals (who draft Rudolph) for Their 2 x 2nd rounders (pick 13 and 14) and a 4th. My first 2 rounds would look like this: 1.21 - Baker Mayfield, QB 2.13 - James Washington, WR 2.14 - Martinas Rankin, OT/C 2.21 - Trenton Thompson, DT 2.23 - Malik Jefferson, LB Im fully prepared to take on the GM role now. Trenton Thompson is going to be a stud. Would love this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Mayfield. He won't make it out of top 10. I just hope Rudolph is there when Bills are picking at 21. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 On 1/20/2018 at 10:08 PM, Kirby Jackson said: It’s Baker and it isn’t close IMO. There’s no chance that he makes it to 21 though. The question should be pick 21 and 53 (and maybe a 4th) to get up to get Baker (if he gets to like 12) or stay put and take Rudolph. Agree. This is the actual question. Along with would you pay a King's ransom to get to #2? Because I am really starting to believe the Giants are going to ride with Eli and auction off that pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Agree. This is the actual question. Along with would you pay a King's ransom to get to #2? Because I am really starting to believe the Giants are going to ride with Eli and auction off that pick. 4 is a possibility as well if the Browns sign Cousins and take Barkley. That’s the 3rd part of the question. I would probably prefer the option 2 of “some assets to get up for Baker” over “lots of assets for a top 4 pick” or “no assets for Rudolph or Jackson.” Rosen has been my guy for over 2 years but I’m not sure that I want to pay that price over Baker and the extra picks. This team has too many holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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