BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 15 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Mayfield 100 % 1
Pete Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 Billy Price and Lamar Jackson- then devote the rest of draft to D- I am down for this!
whatdrought Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Pete said: Billy Price and Lamar Jackson- then devote the rest of draft to D- I am down for this! What about Jackson is better than Taylor? (Not arguing, just genuinely curious)
Pete Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: What about Jackson is better than Taylor? (Not arguing, just genuinely curious) Much better passer. He has guts to make a tough throw. Tyrod is risk averse. Lamar can throw from pocket. And is just as dangerous, if not more, when he takes off Edited February 6, 2018 by Pete 1
SouthNYfan Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 25 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Mayfield He's damn good I like him and Rosen
DCOrange Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, whatdrought said: What about Jackson is better than Taylor? (Not arguing, just genuinely curious) Jackson has a cannon for an arm, is a better runner than Tyrod, more willing to stand in the pocket, sees the field better, and is big enough to see the field/throw over the O-Line.
whatdrought Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, Pete said: Much better passer. He has guts to make a tough throw. Tyrod is risk averse. Lamar can throw from pocket. And is just as dangerous, if not more, when he takes off From what I've heard, he has some accuracy concerns?
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 And Somehow we draft JP Losman again.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: He's damn good I like him and Rosen Mayfield and Darnold for me. I don't like Rosen when the play breaks down and a lot of questions about his commitment to the game. 1
26CornerBlitz Posted February 6, 2018 Author Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Mayfield and Darnold for me. I don't like Rosen when the play breaks down and a lot of questions about his commitment to the game. Mark Rosen down for a Hall of Fame career. 1 2
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, buffalobloodfloridahome said: And Somehow we draft JP Losman again. Not this time (plus I don't think he is in this draft.) Edited February 6, 2018 by Buffalo Barbarian
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 Honestly I would love to have Rosen pending him actually wanting to play in Buffalo which is a big ?
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Mark Rosen down for a Hall of Fame career. Im not doing that for anyone, have to see them in the league first. 2
whatdrought Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 @Pete Who do you compare Jackson to/see him as similar to?
26CornerBlitz Posted February 6, 2018 Author Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said: Im not doing that for anyone, have to see them in the league first. I'm going on your QB record here. He'll be great if you don't like him.
Pete Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, whatdrought said: @Pete Who do you compare Jackson to/see him as similar to? a bigger version of Michael Vick, almost as fast, quicker release, big arm, play making machine, but much better at diagnosing defenses and understanding complex offenses
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: I'm going on your QB record here. He'll be great if you don't like him. Oh of cousre, what was I thinking 1
SouthNYfan Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Mayfield and Darnold for me. I don't like Rosen when the play breaks down and a lot of questions about his commitment to the game. Very fair. I'm not as concerned as you are, but I also can't argue those points, as they are legit, and it really is perception on the degree to which they affect things. I think a lot of people view him as a Jay Cutler, amazing arm and talent, but questions about his leadership, personality (as a teammate, as well as towards the media), and his "football desire" all remind many of Jay. The last one is definitely a big possible issue, as somebody who isn't mentally committed to football could run into on the field issues (not caring if they win or lose, which generally means less practice time, and this indifferent attitude can affect teammates) All valid concerns. I think Mayfield is a gamer, and not just wants to win, but hates losing, and those are two very different things. Everybody wants to win. Not everybody has that visceral hatred for losing, which is something you see in all the greats in every sport (Jordan, Kobe, Brady, etc). It's a very distinct difference, and I fully agree that Rosen might not fit that mold.
whatdrought Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Pete said: a bigger version of Michael Vick, almost as fast, quicker release, big arm, play making machine, but much better at diagnosing defenses and understanding complex offenses Does he have the same consistent knack for improvisation that Vick does? I've seen his draft stock everywhere from top 5 to mid 2nd round. Why does that fluctuate as much? Also, what's the competition like for a school like Louisville? I know Bridgewater came from there and that the football program seems to be putting out some decent guys lately, but I don't know much about it. 1 minute ago, SouthNYfan said: Very fair. I'm not as concerned as you are, but I also can't argue those points, as they are legit, and it really is perception on the degree to which they affect things. I think a lot of people view him as a Jay Cutler, amazing arm and talent, but questions about his leadership, personality (as a teammate, as well as towards the media), and his "football desire" all remind many of Jay. The last one is definitely a big possible issue, as somebody who isn't mentally committed to football could run into on the field issues (not caring if they win or lose, which generally means less practice time, and this indifferent attitude can affect teammates) All valid concerns. I think Mayfield is a gamer, and not just wants to win, but hates losing, and those are two very different things. Everybody wants to win. Not everybody has that visceral hatred for losing, which is something you see in all the greats in every sport (Jordan, Kobe, Brady, etc). It's a very distinct difference, and I fully agree that Rosen might not fit that mold. See, I'd rather have the pure passion of a Mayfield over the pure talent of a Rosen (if it's true that he isn't committed)
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