EricScott Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 Apparently, if McCarron comes out ahead in his grievance against the Bengals, then he becomes a free agent. I don't have a strong opinion either way, but I haven't seen his name mentioned much on this board, and I'm wondering if he might be worthy of discussion as a possible FA target. He would likely come at a fraction of the cost of a Teddy Bridgewater, for example, and yet he does seem to be an under the radar type who might be worth a gamble. Thoughts?
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, EricScott said: Apparently, if McCarron comes out ahead in his grievance against the Bengals, then he becomes a free agent. I don't have a strong opinion either way, but I haven't seen his name mentioned much on this board, and I'm wondering if he might be worthy of discussion as a possible FA target. He would likely come at a fraction of the cost of a Teddy Bridgewater, for example, and yet he does seem to be an under the radar type who might be worth a gamble. Thoughts? There's a limited data set on him of course, but he is one of two later- round backup QB that met the "Yes" criteria (completion %, YPA, and TD/iNT) in my QB draft analysis. I think he's an interesting player (and the better of the two, though the other is on a much worse team) Here's my caveat: assuming he becomes a FA, then like Tyrod did, he's going to want to go to a team that will give him a shot at being a starter. And while I'd be happy for him to compete to be a starter, I want it to be a much more "stacked" competition than EJM, TT, and Matt Cassel - which means the size of the Brinks truck we can offer him must be limited to a small handtruck.
EricScott Posted January 20, 2018 Author Posted January 20, 2018 The reports are that the Browns were ready to give the Bengals a second and a third round pick for him in their botched trade attempt. That's literally a higher price than the Pats got from the 49'ers for Jimmy G. He's only 27 and doesn't have a lot of tread on the tires. I guess I'm just puzzled by the seeming lack of interest in him on this board. I just think getting him for a relatively reasonable rate and having all of our picks available to make the team around him stronger is at least something to think about. Is Mason Rudolph, for example, any less of a gamble than McCarron would be?
gobills1212 Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 Man.. Why didn't anyone else think of that?? 2 years ago there might have been a case. Now he suffers from ' if he was worth his salt why hasn't he supplanted Dalton? I'd imagine there's only one answer...
transient Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, gobills1212 said: Man.. Why didn't anyone else think of that?? 2 years ago there might have been a case. Now he suffers from ' if he was worth his salt why hasn't he supplanted Dalton? I'd imagine there's only one answer... ... the square root of 7? 2
gobills1212 Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, transient said: ... the square root of 7? Lol, something like that...
LeGOATski Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 Low price competition? Yeah. Him, Peterman, and the rookie would be adequate for me. I'd like the Bills to just develop their own franchise QB. Something they've never done.
reddogblitz Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) Man, I was just thinking about it this. I say YES. Accurate passer. Comes from a winning program. Been through 3 or 4 years of NFL mini camps, training camps,film study,pre season games. Even has a little playoff experience. 6 TDs 2 picks 6.9 ypa 64% completions, 93.6 rate in spot duty. I would try very hard to trade or sign him. Bring back Hotrod. Then draft a good QB if you can. Let them compete in PS. Best QB pLays. I have never understood why when good college QBs go to a team and rides the pine, everyone forgets about them and instead focusses on guys like Josh Allen. Edited January 20, 2018 by reddogblitz
EricScott Posted January 20, 2018 Author Posted January 20, 2018 I've actually seen more than a few Bengals fans on their boards say they'd like to see McCarron start over Dalton. Teams don't like to pay their starters huge sums of money and then bench them for a second-stringer- makes the front office look bad. I'm not saying that this is necessarily the way to go, but I think it just might be an option worth discussing.
GunnerBill Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 My opinion hasn't changed since I wanted the Bills to pick him in the mid rounds of the 2014 draft. High floor guy.. he is what some people thought Peterman was but isn't.... a guy whose floor is solid NFL backup. The issue is that I think his ceiling is somewhere around Ryan Tannehill (I would say Tyrod but Tannehill feels a better style comparison). At the right price I'd take a shot as a bridge guy but I think he would probably have better offers on the table.
simpleman Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 > IF < he becomes an UFA. I would consider him at the right price. But not at the cost of a 2nd and a 3rd. He has potential as a bridge while a rookie develops. But the price would have to be right. An incentive laced performance based contract would be essential. He is less of a gamble than a rookie like we would get without trading up, but he has not proven in any way to be a possible franchise QB. He has proven to be a perfectly acceptable backup with a possible upside, but nothing more. I'd give him his shot at starting, and let him prove he is worth more.
Mountain Man Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 6 hours ago, EricScott said: The reports are that the Browns were ready to give the Bengals a second and a third round pick for him in their botched trade attempt. That's literally a higher price than the Pats got from the 49'ers for Jimmy G. He's only 27 and doesn't have a lot of tread on the tires. I guess I'm just puzzled by the seeming lack of interest in him on this board. I just think getting him for a relatively reasonable rate and having all of our picks available to make the team around him stronger is at least something to think about. Is Mason Rudolph, for example, any less of a gamble than McCarron would be? Are we taking the judgement of a 1-31 head coach as an endorsement?
8-8 Forever? Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 6 hours ago, EricScott said: The reports are that the Browns were ready to give the Bengals a second and a third round pick for him in their botched trade attempt. That's literally a higher price than the Pats got from the 49'ers for Jimmy G. He's only 27 and doesn't have a lot of tread on the tires. I guess I'm just puzzled by the seeming lack of interest in him on this board. I just think getting him for a relatively reasonable rate and having all of our picks available to make the team around him stronger is at least something to think about. Is Mason Rudolph, for example, any less of a gamble than McCarron would be? who cares what posters are thinking. i can assure you the Bills are looking at him.
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 Instant upgrade over what we have now. At the cost he could be very intriguing. What a year to go qb hunting. We will have some options 1
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 AJ McCarron would be the perfect bridge QB with the potential to play at the same level as Andy Dalton or better. If our goal is to upgrade the passing attack and play mistake free offense than McCarron is our guy. If the defense is improved and the trenches are improved I think AJ could get us to the playoffs. All the guy did at Alabama was win.
JohnC Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Man, I was just thinking about it this. I say YES. Accurate passer. Comes from a winning program. Been through 3 or 4 years of NFL mini camps, training camps,film study,pre season games. Even has a little playoff experience. 6 TDs 2 picks 6.9 ypa 64% completions, 93.6 rate in spot duty. I would try very hard to trade or sign him. b]Bring back Hotrod.[/b] Then draft a good QB if you can. Let them compete in PS. Best QB pLays. I have never understood why when good college QBs go to a team and rides the pine, everyone forgets about them and instead focusses on guys like Josh Allen. The Tyrod Taylor era in Buffalo is over with. He re-signed with Buffalo because he felt that it was the best situation for him to showcase his talents as a starter. It didn't work out for a variety of reasons. (Pointless to rehash what has already been rehashed. ) His former GM wanted to move on from him. The next brain-trust appears to want to do the same. The best situation for Taylor is to move on to another location/situation and have a fresh start. The best situation for the Bills is to move in another direction on the qb issue and have a fresh start. This is a case where what is right for the player is right for the franchise. He's a quality guy who deserves to be in a better situation than what he has here. The best way to move forward is not to look back. Edited January 20, 2018 by JohnC 5
Big Gun Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 8 hours ago, EricScott said: Apparently, if McCarron comes out ahead in his grievance against the Bengals, then he becomes a free agent. I don't have a strong opinion either way, but I haven't seen his name mentioned much on this board, and I'm wondering if he might be worthy of discussion as a possible FA target. He would likely come at a fraction of the cost of a Teddy Bridgewater, for example, and yet he does seem to be an under the radar type who might be worth a gamble. Thoughts? What makes him any more desirable to want to play opposed to our own 5th round pick?
Kirby Jackson Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 8 hours ago, EricScott said: Apparently, if McCarron comes out ahead in his grievance against the Bengals, then he becomes a free agent. I don't have a strong opinion either way, but I haven't seen his name mentioned much on this board, and I'm wondering if he might be worthy of discussion as a possible FA target. He would likely come at a fraction of the cost of a Teddy Bridgewater, for example, and yet he does seem to be an under the radar type who might be worth a gamble. Thoughts? I actually think that he gets more than Bridgewater. McCarron to me fits in that stopgap tier with Bridgewater, Tyrod, Bradford, McCown, Alex Smith and maybe a few I’m forgetting. Those are the guys that you can have if you’ve invested an eary pick on a QB. I don’t think that you can commit to McCarron though as the guy. His resume is short like a draft pick but you will have to pay him $12m plus (conservatively).
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