Mr. WEO Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/18/health/cte-concussion-repeated-hits-study/index.html Not sure what this means for the NFL. It confirms what has already been speculated--it's not about the known events (concussions), it's an accumulation of hits, starting in youth. While it may further give pause to parents considering tackle football for their kids, it should help insulate the NFL from claims that NFL football caused any player's CTE type disease. Edited January 18, 2018 by Mr. WEO spelling error
Chicken Boo Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) "Previous studies have shown that repetitive hits to the head -- even without concussion -- can result in CTE" Even worse news for the NFL and contact football in general. Concussions just make the disease more likely to occur. Edited January 18, 2018 by Chicken Boo 3 2
Mr. WEO Posted January 18, 2018 Author Posted January 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: "Previous studies have shown that repetitive hits to the head -- even without concussion -- can result in CTE" Even worse news for the NFL and contact football in general. Other than possibly affecting the future number of players who play in college, this is the news the NFL has been waiting for.
Jauronimo Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 I'm surprised that repetitive blows to the head are bad for a person. Does this mean that Whaley is vindicated? 2 3
Mr. WEO Posted January 18, 2018 Author Posted January 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: I'm surprised that repetitive blows to the head are bad for a person. Does this mean that Whaley is vindicated? Yes. Tell him at lunch. 1
LeGOATski Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 Nothing a good ol' padded helmet can't fix... 1
Wayne Arnold Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Other than possibly affecting the future number of players who play in college, this is the news the NFL has been waiting for. There are waaaaaay too many college football teams anyway. Should eliminate about 90% of them. 1
teef Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 maybe everyone should just wear one of those kelso helmets. 1
HamSandwhich Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 This whole thing is dumb, everyone knew/knows blows to the head can cause issues down the line. These are professional athletes that know this is a dangerous sport, and even so, decided to play. Because MONEY TALKS!!! Maybe this make more sense for the lower ranks, and deciding for your kid, but football will continue to make money and if that happens, people will continue to aspire to be NFL players. Tired of all this CTE talk and how it will be the downfall of the NFL. It wont. 3
DrDawkinstein Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, teef said: maybe everyone should just wear one of those kelso helmets. Better yet, NO helmet. You'd see an immediate change back to proper tackling form instead of this BS that passes for defense nowadays. 3 1
Santana Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 27 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/18/health/cte-concussion-repeated-hits-study/index.html Not sure what this means for the NFL. It confirms what has already been speculated--it's not about the known events (concussions), it's an accumulation of hits, starting in youth. While it may further give pause to parents considering tackle football for their kids, it should help insulate the NFL from claims that NFL football caused any player's CTE type disease. I don't think that the it's going to insulate the NFL from prior claims or future claims. The NFL was in trouble because they hid this information from their players and continued to let them play when they probably shouldn't have been able to. For years the NFL hid concussions or just brushed off head injuries as getting knocked out when in fact it was probably much more severe. 1
Mr. WEO Posted January 18, 2018 Author Posted January 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Santana said: I don't think that the it's going to insulate the NFL from prior claims or future claims. The NFL was in trouble because they hid this information from their players and continued to let them play when they probably shouldn't have been able to. For years the NFL hid concussions or just brushed off head injuries as getting knocked out when in fact it was probably much more severe. They didn't hide THIS info from their players. As you said, they hid or mistreated concussions, which this paper concludes are not the cause of CTE. So where is the liability? 1
sodbuster Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 25 minutes ago, teef said: maybe everyone should just wear one of those kelso helmets. 4
LABILLBACKER Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 35 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Other than possibly affecting the future number of players who play in college, this is the news the NFL has been waiting for. the problem is more and more parents (especially moms) will discourage or flat out restrict their kids from playing football. The player pool will diminish.
Fadingpain Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 38 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Other than possibly affecting the future number of players who play in college, this is the news the NFL has been waiting for. Huh? How many blows to the head does the average person receive in a lifetime, not related to playing football?
Mr. WEO Posted January 18, 2018 Author Posted January 18, 2018 Just now, LABILLBACKER said: the problem is more and more parents (especially moms) will discourage or flat out restrict their kids from playing football. The player pool will diminish. As I said upstream, that would be the only worry for the NFL. But despite al that is already known (this study confirms what was already assumed from other studies and widely published). I don't read about a ton of college kids dropping their scholarships over CTE worries. 1 minute ago, Fadingpain said: Huh? How many blows to the head does the average person receive in a lifetime, not related to playing football? Probably not nearly as many? Why ask?
Fadingpain Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, sodbuster said: I've said this before; take off the helmets and pads. Give them minimal protection and those things they wore in the 1950s that look like WWII tank crew helmets. If a player feels naked and vulnerable on the field, he is not going to fly around and use his head and body as a weapon. Everyone's technique would change dramatically b/c it would have to. Rugby seems just as fundamentally violent a game, but they have no padding, no helmets, and I don't believe are getting concussions and head shots all the time. Seems there is a lesson learned there. Shazier would still be playing if he had not worn a helmet...he would not have tackled head down. 1
The Wiz Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: Huh? How many blows to the head does the average person receive in a lifetime, not related to playing football? I dunno about you but I try to get as many blows to the head as possible. ? 1 3
Fadingpain Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: As I said upstream, that would be the only worry for the NFL. But despite al that is already known (this study confirms what was already assumed from other studies and widely published). I don't read about a ton of college kids dropping their scholarships over CTE worries. Probably not nearly as many? Why ask? B/C all of the accumulated head hits are still attributable to football; the fact that a % of them are received in the NFL doesn't eliminate the NFL's culpability here. I doubt most kids are getting their bells rung at low levels of football... High school, yes. College, yes. NFL? YES! And all the hits cause CTE. It's possible this could lessen the NFL's culpability but it certainly doesn't eliminate it. They are looking (I would presume) for medical evidence to show that CTE is congenital or brought about through chemical processes or anything that has nothing to do with head shots received playing football. Edited January 18, 2018 by Fadingpain
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