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35 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Combination of Kelce going out, dumb play calling by Reid, and Alex not coming through in the clutch with only a FG needed to win at the end of the game. 

 

 

KC did miss a field goal in the 2nd half which would have netted the win..

 

Mariota catching his own ball for a TD. KC missing a crucial 2nd half FG, Kelce going out (no flag). Tyreek Hill missing pass after pass early in the 1st half, and disappearing  in the 2nd. K.Hunt league leading rusher being given the ball 11 times in a game you were leading by 3 scores, Albert Wilson missing a dime (IMO) to win the game. Andy going full post-season Philadelphia Andy... Their whole team had their worst game, at the worst possible time.

 

Alex not coming through in the clutch is kinda BS though imo.. replay that play on 4th and 9. He dropped a DIME to wilson, wilson just choked cause of the safety (Bad play call though, you only need 9yds and your drawing up 20yard slants? wtf?) 

 

Play back KC's 2nd half drives.

 

1st drive = 3 and out  

 

2nd drive = missed field goal

 

3rd drive = 3rd and 2, easy dropped ball from the receiver

 

4th drive = Dime to wilson = dropped ball (story of the day)

 

 

Then the titans, their QB didnt need to be clutch, he had a RB rip off a 3rd and 10 run, in a obvious run play situation icing the game...... It wasn't some story of alex disspaering in the 2nd. It was limited opportunities, with missed, basic, easy, football chances...

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1 hour ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

So your saying the guy shouldn't have weapons. Man he finally gets some help and puts up big numbers and people bash him for it.  A Smith is a winner! He had a tough tough start to his career and fought bk everytime. I wouldn't mind him starting for us for a couple seasons while we properly develop a young QB.

 

This was the 1st year KC had Matt Nagy as Offensive Coordinator.

He was Alex Smiths QB coach previously for his whole time in KC.

 

People cannot tell me that KC offensive system wasn't entirely different this year compared to the previous 4.

If anything, it shows Alex can still adapt.

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3 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

I think OBD has a reasonable shot at Smith.......speculation is Andy is looking for a 2nd......Smith has one year left on his deal at $17 mil, so renting him for a 2nd is questionable....now if you could get him for a 3rd and an agreement in principle to add a year, that would be more palatable IMO....Smith under contract for two years to groom the new 1st round pick (I'm guessing Rudolph) and Peterman would be an ideal QB situation for Bills......was Daboll in KC with Alex?....

       
       

 

Negative.  Daboll predates Alex Smith in KC quite a bit.  He had Matt Cassel and I think Brady Quinn as his KC QB. 

2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...so give me your assessment on the Titans game......offense was humming along in the 1st hitting on all cylinders.....the 2nd yielded 3 1st downs and 41 yds......reporter asked Andy why in his presser and he got all Andy testy...."I can't get into that right now".....typical........so was it Andy?...Alex?...both?......Lebeau's D?.....

 

IIRC Tony Dungy, in the post-game show, was very harsh on Andy Reid for his second half playcalling.

 

He said something startlingly blunt like "if you want to get to a Championship game, you're not going to get there with Andy Reid coaching"

 

I thought that was kind of telling.

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I'd be fine bringing Smith in as a free agent, but I do not want to trade draft capital for him in a year that we need all the draft capital we can muster to draft a QB and/or fill the many personnel holes.

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1 minute ago, MJS said:

I'd be fine bringing Smith in as a free agent, but I do not want to trade draft capital for him in a year that we need all the draft capital we can muster to draft a QB and/or fill the many personnel holes.

 

This.

 

If he gets cut, I'd absolutely go after him. But I'm not interested in Trading a Day 1 or Day 2 pick for him to be a stop gap QB.

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Smith is going to be 34 in a couple of months. And even though most of the bigger name franchise QB's are still playing at a high level well into their mid/late 30's, not sure any team would be willing to give up much in a trade for Smith. I'm thinking a 4th rounder is best case.

 

But as for the Bills I still think that they are better off rolling with Peterman that trying to land Alex Smith or another bigger name type of veteran. We still need some sort of capable journeyman to back NP up but doubt Smith would want that since he can probably start on another next year.

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The Bills already have a QB on the roster that's afraid to throw the ball there's no need to get a different version simply because. 

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On 1/18/2018 at 1:35 PM, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Pretty different situations. We haven't even hit the offseason yet, Smith is on the final year of his contract, and KC has his perceived successor on the roster and a year into their system and he may supplant Smith before the season starts.

 

Minnesota experienced a catastrophic injury to their starting QB between preseason week 4 and regular season week 1. Bradford had just signed a 2 year contract, and Wentz had yet to even take a regular season snap or prep for a regular season game.

K.C. isn't going to let Alex S. go for a 3rd or a 4th round pick.

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The price will be based on the market and most importantly how many teams are interested.  The price could be reasonable like a 2nd round pick but if there are two/three teams interested the price will get steeper.   A lot of teams could be interested in trading for Smith.

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On 1/19/2018 at 1:18 AM, reddogblitz said:

 

Sorry if I mischaracterized you. The only place I saw Hotrod mentioned in your post was that he's not as good as Smith and they both don't throw to WRs.

 

As far as the bolded, how many teams will win 2 games in playoffs this year?  Maybe 3.  Jacksonville, maybe NE, and the winner of Eagles vs Vikes.  That's a tall order.  You say you would rather suck than go with a QB like Alex or Hotrod.  How do you know before the season starts you'll win 2 or not so you know wether to try to win or suck?  And really you have idea if Alex or Hotrod will be on teams that do.  Did you think Jeff Hostetller or Trent Dilfer or Mark Rypien or Doug Williams or Jim McMahon could before they did?

 

It's just a difference in philosophy between us.  You and many others here think if you don't win the SB, the season was a failure.  Shoulda sucked for a high pick instead.  As for me, I want to see the Bills win games.  Going to the Ralph or watching a win on TV is way more fun than losing for a high pick.  

 

All you got out of the Colts game was snow?  Our slim playoff chances rested on the game and the guys totally came together and won as a team.  After the punt, our D stopped them which they were having trouble doing.  Then Joe freakin' Webb III hits that pass to Thompson followed by a Shady TD due in large part to a great block by Richie.  That was the day I thought, you know what, we just might make it this year.  That's what playoff teams do. Win tough games down the stretch. Teams of the past 17 yeas would have figured out a way to blow that game. Sorry you had such a boring December.

 

After the 3 game slump, we won 4 out of 6 to secure a spot.  

 

How did we "lucked in"?  Luck is part of the game.  The Titans got a playoff win because in large part a good play by a defender ended up bouncing into his bread basket and he took it in for a TD.  Luck?  A lot of people say Minnesota lucked out too. It's a funny shaped ball.  It bounces oddly.  The Steelers totally lucked out on the Immaculate Reception.  The Steelers lucked out to win a SB because Jackie Smith dropped a TD in the EZ.  The Giants lucked out because because of Wide Right. It's part of the game. You just have to be able to capitalize on it.

 

As far as Cincy, come on man,  you're smarter than that (I hope).  What if Joe Webb III misses on that pass, does Dalton's still get us in?  what about if we don't come back from 7 down int he 4th quarter to beat the Bucs to defend our dirt at the Ralph?  Does Andy's pass still get us in?

 

I know to you it's not a good season unless you win the SB.  My theory is if you make the playoffs it's good.  And yes, after 17 years of back to back to back 6-10 seasons and 4-12 seasons and back to back to back 7-9 season, yes a playoff berth at 9-7 feels really sweet.

 

Please don't worry about me though.  I'm doing just fine :)

 

Go BILLS !!

I agree on what makes a successful season. Not perfect but simply successful. A team should always shoot for the SB but...................

The owner of the NY Giants said that he considers it a successful season if they are playing for something on the last day of the regular season.

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51 minutes ago, Klaista2k said:

He's not worth anything more than a 4th at the most IMO.

He will get much more than that. The Jags probably feel they would be in the Super Bowl if they had Smith Instead of Bortles. If they think he can play 4 years and get them over the top they would pay a high price for him. 

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