Magox Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 On 1/17/2018 at 7:31 PM, mob16151 said: Really?? Aaron Maybin,and Erik Flowers say hello. Oh look over there it's Mike Williams,and Donte Whitner.......The list just keeps going on. Expand Yeah, really! We gave up 2 first rounders for an underperforming player. At least Maybin cost us only one.
Da webster guy Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 On 1/17/2018 at 5:42 PM, Charlottebillsfan2 said: too many holes to fill unless your moving up for a QB. Stay put and let the draft come to you. Expand Yes. One thing about drafting in the early 20's is there are people there who you never thought would fall. Happened last year with guys like Peppers, Ramczyk, TreD etc. Recently QB's like Derek Carr, Bridgewater, Garoppolo fell into the position where you could easily have grabbed them in the 20's, or traded back a dozen spots and still get them. Obviously keep your options open, but there is no Andrew Luck in this draft, and I hate to see us burn two first rounders to get someone we really aren't sure of to begin with. I love the wheeling and dealing for fun on draft day, but I'd love to see us stay put and hammer two solid back to back players on day one right at 21, 22.
MAJBobby Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 On 1/17/2018 at 5:52 PM, starrymessenger said: Cornelius Bennett says hello. Technically not a trade up but six of one and a half dozen of the other. Expand Not a trade up. And still the reason fora trade up is a LBer that played how many years ago? On 1/17/2018 at 5:57 PM, KelsaysLunchbox said: JP Losman on line 3... Expand Right position it was a trade up for a QB wasnt it?
mob16151 Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 On 1/17/2018 at 7:52 PM, Magox said: Yeah, really! We gave up 2 first rounders for an underperforming player. At least Maybin cost us only one. Expand John McCargo
Reed83HOF Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 On 1/17/2018 at 8:05 PM, MAJBobby said: Not a trade up. And still the reason fora trade up is a LBer that played how many years ago? Right position it was a trade up for a QB wasnt it? Expand Or save next year's pick for Aaron Rodgers...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 On 1/17/2018 at 8:05 PM, MAJBobby said: Not a trade up. And still the reason fora trade up is a LBer that played how many years ago? Right position it was a trade up for a QB wasnt it? Expand It was. But not the right QB. That's the thing, if you trade up in the first it damn well better be for a player that can take your team to the next level. JP wasn't it. Sammy was not it. But it doesn't mean that if there is an absolute game changer you shouldn't trade up. A Julio Jones for instance. I'd love to stay put myself. Let the draft fall how it may. At 21 & 22 there's a good chance we come out with a QB and another possible impact player.
Adam727 Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 I genuinely hate this idea. And even if Smith ended up being the best LB in the league I would STILL hate this idea. Trade up for a QB, make their picks at 21 & 22, or trade back and acquire more future draft capital. I'd be fine with any/all of those. But if they traded down instead of selecting Watson or Mahomes last year so that they could package those extra picks the following year to draft a LB, it would be really difficult to try to support this team until Beane is gone.
fansince88 Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 I say trade the 1st 3 picks for a new kicker.... 1
Xwnyer Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 I want us to Trade DOWN get more picks fill the voids of talent.
njbuff Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 Like most people have said in here............... Unless it's a QB, don't waste 4 blue chip picks in rounds one and two. There is a long way to go in this draft process that hasn't even begun yet and don't count the Bills out of trading into the top 2 if they love Darnold like we were told they were. Obviously (my Marrone pun), the draft process will play itself out to see where the Bills will go. I wouldn't want this team to kill their cap on QB (Cousins) who is an upgrade from Taylor (obviously, again, lol), but doesn't guarantee any type of success with him now and in the future. Cousins has had talented skill players to work with in Washington, but to no success.
NewEraBills Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 On 1/17/2018 at 7:18 PM, H2o said: It's just a thought. I like Smith a lot as a player and I'm sure McDermott wants to find his Kuechley for this defense. I'm not saying I would trade up for him because I like Tegray Scales of Indiana almost as much and think he can be had @ 21 or 22. This is something I could see happening though if they really feel Smith is that important a piece of the defense so I threw it out there. Expand Smith is my favorite player in the draft and honestly, when it comes to best players in the draft I think he's better than all of the QB's but we have too many holes to fill to be thinking about using that many assets on one player.
MAJBobby Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 On 1/17/2018 at 8:27 PM, KelsaysLunchbox said: It was. But not the right QB. That's the thing, if you trade up in the first it damn well better be for a player that can take your team to the next level. JP wasn't it. Sammy was not it. But it doesn't mean that if there is an absolute game changer you shouldn't trade up. A Julio Jones for instance. I'd love to stay put myself. Let the draft fall how it may. At 21 & 22 there's a good chance we come out with a QB and another possible impact player. Expand Julio hasnt dont anything really for Atlanta has he??? Sure as heck isnt going to be some LBer to take your team to a Championship level
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) On 1/17/2018 at 10:21 PM, MAJBobby said: Julio hasnt dont anything really for Atlanta has he??? Sure as heck isnt going to be some LBer to take your team to a Championship level Expand Yea, Julio has been a colossal flop. And Ray Lewis... definitely didn't propel a Baltimore championship. That was allllllllll former 1st rounder Trent Dilfer. Edited January 17, 2018 by KelsaysLunchbox
ndirish1978 Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) We just throwing up names of people we like and wondering aloud if we could get them for 2 first rounders? Cause I'd venture to say we could get most non-QB players in the NFL if we did that. Hell, we could probably just trade those picks for Kuechly. Edited January 17, 2018 by ndirish1978
26CornerBlitz Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 On 1/17/2018 at 11:01 PM, ndirish1978 said: We just throwing up names of people we like and wondering aloud if we could get them for 2 first rounders? Cause I'd venture to say we could get most players in the NFL if we did that. Expand Maybe the Packers will take #s 21 and 22 for Rodgers??? 1
ndirish1978 Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 On 1/17/2018 at 11:01 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Maybe the Packers will take #s 21 and 22 for Rodgers??? Expand Damn you for quoting me while I was in the middle of editing my post! 1
MAJBobby Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 On 1/17/2018 at 10:48 PM, KelsaysLunchbox said: Yea, Julio has been a colossal flop. And Ray Lewis... definitely didn't propel a Baltimore championship. That was allllllllll former 1st rounder Trent Dilfer. Expand Has Julio got Atalnta multiple championships? Was Ray Lewis a trade up. Sorry no position justifies giving up multiple 1sts other than QB
NewEra Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 On 1/17/2018 at 5:23 PM, H2o said: What if we package our two 1st Round picks to move up for Roquan Smith? The LB from Georgia, imo, is one the ELITE players in this draft. He would be the QB of the defense for the next 10 years. He goes sideline to sideline, has great instincts, can cover, and is a tackling machine. He's a not often found type of LB who would make an immediate impact for this team. Our Luke Kuechley. Here is a nice little write up and I think most of us here watched him in the CFP if nothing else this year. Would you be on board with this move? https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/12/30/linebacker-roquan-smith-drives-georgias-defense/990880001/ Expand He’s my favorite non qb prospect in the draft. That being said. No, I wouldn’t trade up for him unless he skipper out of the top 13 or so. If we could trade 21 and a 3rd, I’d do it. Then I’d trade down from 22 and acquire as many picks as possible. If we don’t trade up for a QB I expect and hope that we trade down from 21 or 22. We can hold a team ransom if we know they are looking for a certain player that we don’t necessarily really want him. We can tell them we’re going to draft him if they don’t trade up to 21. We have LOTS of holes. The more picks the better. Either trade up for the qb or trade down with at least one of the picks. Maybe even 2. I could see a scenario where we draft Mason Rudolph (ugh, I don’t want him in the least) or the best QB available then trade down with the other.
Fadingpain Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 NO! You don't trade up in the NFL draft! Not unless you are going hard for what you believe to be your franchise QB. Otherwise, pretend trading up is not allowed. TRADE DOWN! Get more picks!
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