blzrul Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 link Which is pretty much what the RNC stated before and during the convention they expected. This is the poll taken AFTER, not before and during the convention. Again it's another small sampling but is consistent with all the other polls...another tight race is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 link Which is pretty much what the RNC stated before and during the convention they expected. This is the poll taken AFTER, not before and during the convention. Again it's another small sampling but is consistent with all the other polls...another tight race is all. 20214[/snapback] The Communist News Network, huh? I'll go with the Time Poll... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich in Ohio Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 This is so funny, the battle of the polls. Look, the RNC did an expotentialy better job at presenting themselves then did the DNC. People saw most of what they needed to see, and the final nail in the coffin will be the debates. Trust me, after the first one or two, kerry will stop asking for one a week. He will get slapped around like a crack whore. But like I have continued to say, at least kerry is entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 USA Today Poll and massive front page headline: Bush takes 7-point lead in polls. Is it 2%? Or 11%? Or 7%? Or maybe it's just a matter of "keep looking until you find the answer you want." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 link Which is pretty much what the RNC stated before and during the convention they expected. This is the poll taken AFTER, not before and during the convention. Again it's another small sampling but is consistent with all the other polls...another tight race is all. 20214[/snapback] I could go on and on about polls. The Dem's took great stock in the Time poll when it helped them. The Rep's now take great stock when it shines on them. It will surely be close. Kerry has a certain disagreeable air about him...I think yesterday's announcement of national staff replacement is telling. He's coming again to Cincinnatti to speak of an Iraq plan. A few months ago, he said troops would be out in 6 months and today he says 4 years. How can he lay himself so open to easy punches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I heard it was the lowest by any incumbant coming off his convention in the last 50 years or so. Is this true? Given this climate... Might be good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 USA Today Poll and massive front page headline: Bush takes 7-point lead in polls. Is it 2%? Or 11%? Or 7%? Or maybe it's just a matter of "keep looking until you find the answer you want." 20939[/snapback] What are error margins... +/- 4 or 5%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 What are error margins... +/- 4 or 5%? 20959[/snapback] Plus or minus four OR five percent? Now the margins of error have margins of error? (Typically, the error's about 3.5% for a random 1000 unit sample. Political polls aren't quite a random sampling though, despite the media's insistence.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I heard it was the lowest by any incumbant coming off his convention in the last 50 years or so. Is this true? Given this climate... Might be good enough. 20957[/snapback] I don't know...but I have a hard time imagining Bush I or Carter were doing all that well immediately after their conventions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD Jarhead Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Thanks for the heads up Nozzlenut...I was wondering what happened to you. You got pretty quiet on us there for a few days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I don't know...but I have a hard time imagining Bush I or Carter were doing all that well immediately after their conventions. 21043[/snapback] I heard yesterday with regards to the "Is the Country on the Right Track?" poll that Bush's number (43 or 44%) is better than Clinton's in 1996 (39%). Makes me wonder if *any* president is enormously popular or accomplished following his first term. Seems like every 2-term president gets the bulk of his accomplishments in the second term. Emphasis on "seems like" as I have no research to back this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 I heard yesterday with regards to the "Is the Country on the Right Track?" poll that Bush's number (43 or 44%) is better than Clinton's in 1996 (39%). Makes me wonder if *any* president is enormously popular or accomplished following his first term. Seems like every 2-term president gets the bulk of his accomplishments in the second term. Emphasis on "seems like" as I have no research to back this up. 21156[/snapback] Then there is the curse of the second term: Clinton-Monica Reagan-Iran/Contra Nixon-WaterGate Johnson... What was that?... Not really a second termer??? Eisenhower-U2 fiasco. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 Then there is the curse of the second term: Clinton-Monica Reagan-Iran/Contra Nixon-WaterGate Johnson... What was that?... Not really a second termer??? Eisenhower-U2 fiasco. ?? 21602[/snapback] Of course some presidents have their first term problems as well: Carter - Iran hostages Clinton - WideWater Clinton - Foster murder Johnson - Vietnam escalation Kennedy - Monroe (and about 50 other women) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 Of course some presidents have their first term problems as well: Carter - Iran hostages Clinton - WideWater Clinton - Foster murder Johnson - Vietnam escalation Kennedy - Monroe (and about 50 other women) 21604[/snapback] Hey what about? Eishenhower- Wasn't there some mistress deal? Nixon-Kent State and that enduring cluster-eff we call Vietnam... Operation Fishhook, his 1970 SOTU address and another 3-5 years... ... WaterGate (Just not exposed yet)... Reagn-Iran-Contra (just not exposed yet)... Bush-S & L scandel I think it is fair to say they all have their problems. I think it also fair to say the Republicans hide their demons better, just like schoolyard girls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 Not only was the bounce "modest," but it's GONE, according to the latest round of Zogby polls. All that money spent last month and all that yapping done last week... for exactly nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 Not only was the bounce "modest," but it's GONE, according to the latest round of Zogby polls. All that money spent last month and all that yapping done last week... for exactly nothing. 22608[/snapback] Polls suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 I see the DNC put out another talking points memo yesterday. Rush had clips of at least a half dozen libs saying the exact same line about a bounce. Some of the people here must have got it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 I see the DNC put out another talking points memo yesterday. Rush had clips of at least a half dozen libs saying the exact same line about a bounce. Some of the people here must have got it too. 22806[/snapback] REALLY? I could have SWORN that was just original thinking, given the type of rhetoric they throw out. It's amazing to think a GROUP of people actually gave this thought and decided this strategy was a good idea. "Hey, let's tell everyone that Bush doesn't drive a biodiesel vehicle! That'll piss people off." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 I see the DNC put out another talking points memo yesterday. Rush had clips of at least a half dozen libs saying the exact same line about a bounce. Some of the people here must have got it too. 22806[/snapback] Repeat after me: Kerry's not Dukakis. Kerry's not Dukakis. Kerry's not Dukakis. Apparently, if the libs repeat that often enough it'll come true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blzrul Posted September 9, 2004 Author Share Posted September 9, 2004 The Gallup poll in the past day or two showed 2%, consistent with the other polls that were taken after, not during. In fact one poll now shows Kerry ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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