Mat68 Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hurricane Marv said: He's not the greatest yet but I'm kind of surprised by how many people are dismissing this. It's really not a completely ridiculous opinion. His last five years has got to be one of the best stretches in history statistically speaking, and Rice didn't even really start going bonkers until his early 30's. Brown's putting together a special career right now. This is not true. 87? Strike shortened season 12 games set the td record moss broke with brady. 22 tds on 65 catches. Thats bananas. Brown is great but calling goat is just recentcy bias. Edited January 15, 2018 by Mat68
Mat68 Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 Moss is 2nd in td receptions he is 41 away. TO is 2nd in yards 7,000 away. Tony Gongzalez is second in receptions over 200 cathes away. Rice has the most all purpose yards of all-time. Rice has the most tds all time. Emmit smith is second and is still 33 away. Is antonio brown the football player in the NFL? Jerry Rice was.
Rob's House Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 Another guy who had a phenomenal 5 year stretch (and career for that matter) was Marvin Harrison. I don't put him in the GOAT conversation because I don't think he was ever the consensus top WR in the league when he was playing, and he had the benefit of catching Peyton Manning's passes for the bulk of his career, but he put up some gaudy numbers year in, year out.
CDogg20 Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 11 hours ago, Process said: Seriously By the end of his career I think this guy will be considered the greatest wr to ever play. I'd say you could make the argument that he already is. No. Just no.
ThunderGun Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 So basically, trade down and load up on 6th rounders? Antonio Brown 6th round, 195th overall... Tom Brady 6th round, 199 overall...
MJS Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) Nobody comes close to Rice. His stats are just insane. Plus all the super bowls, pro bowls, etc. He's had a good stretch of seasons, but he'd have to do the exact same thing for many more years, which is asking a lot. He is losing his potential HoF QB soon too. Edited January 15, 2018 by MJS
Billsfansinceday1 Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 13 hours ago, Process said: Seriously By the end of his career I think this guy will be considered the greatest wr to ever play. I'd say you could make the argument that he already is. This feels a bit premature. I won't deny the guy's talent, however.
Doc Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 7 hours ago, Hurricane Marv said: That's if he were to average like 1100-1200 yards per year, which might be selling him short. He's averaged about 1560 yards per season over the last 5 seasons (!) and had a legitimate shot at 2000 this year before he got hurt. It's a long shot for sure, but if he goes nuts for the next five years as well then he's definitely in the conversation. Even if he were to continue to average 1,560 yards/season, he'd still need another 8-1/2 years to surpass Rice. I doubt he's averaging more than 1,200/season in a couple years. But time will tell. And I'd still take Rice over anyone else.
Bing Bong Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) I'll call him the GOAT if he has a long career. And I hope he does. Rice was so good, it's like LeBron catching Jordan Edited January 17, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks
BuffaloBud420 Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 1. Moss 2. Megatron 3. Irvin People forget Rice used stick-um throughout his career but whine about the Patriots.
Reed83HOF Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 5:07 AM, Doc said: Even if he were to continue to average 1,560 yards/season, he'd still need another 8-1/2 years to surpass Rice. I doubt he's averaging more than 1,200/season in a couple years. But time will tell. And I'd still take Rice over anyone else. The era's and rules make it difficult to compare then and now. Antonio is damn good right now, but the rules have changed so much to favor the offense. Rice still put up those numbers back then with players like Atwater, Lott (teammate I know, but making a point), LT et al. laying players out; hands down he is to GOAT. Even if his stats get taken over eventually with the same rules in place as are now, hard to say that player would be the GOAT. Moss took too many plays off, Tim Brown could have been even better if he didn't have trash QBs his entire career. I have to give Andre love and YAC is one of the most important WR stats when looking at great WRs. How can they make plays after they get the ball; him and Rice were 2 of the best ever....
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 His size will become a factor in his inability to be the GOAT. He is the best in the game right now and does it with precision route running speed and great hands. That being said if I was picking WR's that are in the NFL to start a team with I would prefer a Deandre Hopkins, AJ Green or Julio Jones type over Brown. Brown has done so well with Roethlisberger because of the ability to go deep and Ben loves to throw down field. Still amazing and fun to watch him torch defenses every week.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, BuffaloBud420 said: 1. Moss 2. Megatron 3. Irvin People forget Rice used stick-um throughout his career but whine about the Patriots. Gloves now are basically stick-um 1
Charles Romes Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 He may be a candidate for the GOAT small receiver but receiver in general? Please.
dma0034 Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 He will need probably 7-8 more seasons with over 1000 yards and about 12 TDs a year before this is even a conversation.
seregil42 Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 On 1/14/2018 at 9:12 PM, SDS said: This argument is a bit silly. Clearly Jerry Rice has had the greatest career of any receiver. He was also blessed with Joe Montana and Steve Young. The cards were stacked in his favor. I would rather ask the question this way: Given the Hall of Fame quarterback of your choice which receiver would you rather have for one year at the peak of their career? Sorry Jerry, I’d take Moss. Possibly Johnson after him. I'd take Rice all day long. I like my receivers to not dog it on the field.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 2 hours ago, BuffaloBud420 said: 1. Moss 2. Megatron 3. Irvin People forget Rice used stick-um throughout his career but whine about the Patriots. Any list that doesn't include Rice at # 1 is hilarious IMO and Irvin doesn't even belong in the top 20 all time.
dave mcbride Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) I think Brown is a really great player, but I don't even think he's the best receiver in the game *right now*. I'd take Julio Jones over him and wouldn't think twice about it. EDIT: If you look at the stats of each player and factor in that Brown has played one more season, Brown's and Jones's stats are close to identical. Edited January 17, 2018 by dave mcbride
GoBills808 Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I think Brown is a really great player, but I don't even think he's the best receiver in the game *right now*. I'd take Julio Jones over him and wouldn't think twice about it. I agree. Although instead of Jones I'd take Hopkins. Brown is great though no doubt. 1
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