Scott7975 Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He is and the SB ring he won says that. Next you'll tell me about how the team struggled in the last few seasons before 2017. While true, he's on another level above Cousins and has perfomed well in the clutch for many seasons. He is on another level from Cousins, but that wasn't the point. You asked if he was so good then why did his team do no better than the Bills. The Saints did no better than the Bills with an even better QB. That is enough to show that it isn't all on the QB, so that should answer your question. 1
GoBills808 Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: I'm not. I am.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Scott7975 said: He is on another level from Cousins, but that wasn't the point. You asked if he was so good then why did his team do no better than the Bills. The Saints did no better than the Bills with an even better QB. That is enough to show that it isn't all on the QB, so that should answer your question. No kidding? Just now, GoBills808 said: I am. Good for you. Edited January 14, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz
Scott7975 Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: No kidding? Good for you. Then why ask the question?
GoBills808 Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: No kidding? Good for you. You have nothing to back up your contention? No argument? No statistics? Just pithy bon mots? How unsurprising. 1
26CornerBlitz Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, Scott7975 said: Then why ask the question? Because he's been surrounded by talent with Washington and they have done nothing.
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Given a choice of Taylor @ $18 mil or Cousins @ $22 to 25 mil I think the answer would be obvious. But we don't live in a fictional world where those are our only two options. Pass on both.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, GoBills808 said: You have nothing to back up your contention? No argument? No statistics? Just pithy bon mots? How unsurprising. It's a matter of opinion and that's all you're offering. He's pretty good, but not elite or on a franchise level.
bobobonators Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 27 minutes ago, prissythecat said: So so are you saying that Cousins is a to 5 qb? That he certainly is not. QB is not a be all end all position. It’s important for sure but can’t mortgage the future when so many other holes exist. We need to label everything in this world. The numbers are what they are. We have draft picks to fill the other holes in the roster. Its tiring to constantly hear about how Buffalo needs a QB from Bills fans here; now there is a QB available that has put up amazing numbers over the last 3 seasons; said QB is in the middle of the prime of his career; and we have the argument that we dont want to mortgage our future to get him?? If we draft a QB and waste the next 4 years to find out hes not the guy how is that any different? The drafting a QB route has much more of a risk to it than signing Cousins.
GoBills808 Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Because he's been surrounded by talent with Washington and they have done nothing. LOL what talent outside Jordan Reed, who you can arguably say Cousins made (as he's put up his big numbers since 2014 with Cousins and not Griffin? His LT is an All Pro and what else...DeSean Jackson was on the downslide until Cousins went in and basically got him a new contract in TB...you can see how that worked out for his 'talent' this year. Garcon is the only one you can legitimately make an argument for as a talented WR, and still he only had one single 1000 yard season before Cousins got him his second in 2016. 6 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It's a matter of opinion and that's all you're offering. He's pretty good, but not elite or on a franchise level. I'm also offering facts- this is a reply I made to another guy earlier on in the thread: Over the last 3 years (Cousins became starter in 2015), here are his NFL ranks among qualified active starters: 3rd in comp% 4th in yards 8th in TDs 6th in rating (if you like qb rating, because if you don't...) 5th in ANY/A (my personal favorite)...which takes into account the amount of sacks he takes (it's a lot) due to what IMO is a bad Washington line. also 7th, 3rd, and 16th (a down year in 2017) by DYAR if you're a Football Outsiders kind of guy...and he's done all this with the kind of offensive weapons that Bills fans would scoff at. He is in no way pedestrian. Cousins is a legit talent and the fact that he might be available is crazy...I don't understand why people wouldn't want him. Personally I'd make him the highest paid QB in the NFL and not bat an eye. 1
Bangarang Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 13 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: He is on another level from Cousins, but that wasn't the point. You asked if he was so good then why did his team do no better than the Bills. The Saints did no better than the Bills with an even better QB. That is enough to show that it isn't all on the QB, so that should answer your question. The Redskins for whatever reason have avoided making a long term commitment to him. That has to mean something. Teams just don’t let franchise guys walk like they are about to.
bobobonators Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Because he's been surrounded by talent with Washington and they have done nothing. The amount of talent hes surrounded with in Wash is not much. At least not this season. He lost his 2 top WR and they were replaced by lesser players. Jordan Reed has been injured on and off now for over a season. He lost his OC (huge loss). Half his OL was injured this season. His RB’s are practice squad level. And he still put up impressive numbers. And to conclude, Gruden is an average coach. My good friend is a skins fan. That organization is a mess from the top down. Cousins is not the problem. Gruden will be gone soon. 1
26CornerBlitz Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: LOL what talent outside Jordan Reed, who you can arguably say Cousins made (as he's put up his big numbers since 2014 with Cousins and not Griffin? His LT is an All Pro and what else...DeSean Jackson was on the downslide until Cousins went in and basically got him a new contract in TB...you can see how that worked out for his 'talent' this year. Garcon is the only one you can legitimately make an argument for as a talented WR, and still he only had one single 1000 yard season before Cousins got him his second in 2016. He's had Reed, Garcon, Jackson, and Crowder as his slot receiver with a decent RB in Alfred Morris. Not to mention Sean McVay as his play caller. That's a pretty good situation for a QB. LOL at your lack of understanding that he's been supported well until this season decimated the OL and RB positions.
bobobonators Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bangarang said: The Redskins for whatever reason have avoided making a long term commitment to him. That has to mean something. Teams just don’t let franchise guys walk like they are about to. You underestimate how dysfunctional that organization is. And again, his numbers speak for themselves. There is nothing to hide. Its all there on the stat sheet.
Teddy KGB Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It's a matter of opinion and that's all you're offering. He's pretty good, but not elite or on a franchise level. Please stop. The guy threw for 4000 yards and 27 tds with no running game. You sound foolish. 1
GoBills808 Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Jackson Reed and Garcon I answered...Crowder is a 4th round pick that Cousins made and NOT the other way around. Morris's one year (only one) with Cousins he averaged 3.7YPC. Do your homework.
Scott7975 Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bangarang said: The Redskins for whatever reason have avoided making a long term commitment to him. That has to mean something. Teams just don’t let franchise guys walk like they are about to. Yeah, that gives me a little pause. Its not exactly the team I would want to model our team around though.
GoBills808 Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, Scott7975 said: Yeah, that gives me a little pause. Its not exactly the team I would want to model our team around though. You wouldn't want an owner like Snyder either.
Teddy KGB Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, GoBills808 said: Jackson Reed and Garcon I answered...Crowder is a 4th round pick that Cousins made and NOT the other way around. Morris's one year (only one) with Cousins he averaged 3.7YPC. Do your homework. Cant take him serious, just use his links. Hes ice cold on football takes this year.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, GoBills808 said: Jackson Reed and Garcon I answered...Crowder is a 4th round pick that Cousins made and NOT the other way around. Morris's one year (only one) with Cousins he averaged 3.7YPC. Do your homework. I said decent RB. Crowder's draft round doesn't mean anything. He gets open and is a good player. Do your own homework.
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