Woodman19 Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 On 1/13/2018 at 3:50 AM, Kirby Jackson said: That’s a fair point. They all seemed to like Dorsey though. I think most fans are harder on their coaches than an outsider will be but they generally like good coaches and dislike bad coaches. This is an extreme example but in New Orleans when Ryan and Allen were on the defensive staff most fans wanted Dennis Allen to take the reigns. They were right. Expand The good and bad coaching in fans eyes are in the on field performance. That's why good coaches suddenly get bad when they lose talent just like when Norman left the Panthers and McDermott was suddenly a "bad coach"
Happy Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 On 1/13/2018 at 1:00 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said: But in truth, if it's true he insisted on starting Peterman, I think the honest "cause of firing" would be "made boss look like a fool on a national stage". Expand This as well as squandering nearly all opportunities the defense gave Dennison's offense to score points and win games that they ended up losing. I suspect this may be the biggest factor in his firing.
folz Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 On 1/13/2018 at 3:42 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said: I sit corrected. So we swapped WR and a 2nd for a 3rd. Expand And E.J. Gaines. Sammy and a 3rd for Benjamin, Gaines, and a 2nd. If you're going to look at it that way. Pretty solid value. Yes Gaines is a UFA. But we got a solid year's work out of him already and probably have an inside track to signing him long term. I don't think he'll break the bank.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 On 1/13/2018 at 4:04 AM, folz said: And E.J. Gaines. Sammy and a 3rd for Benjamin, Gaines, and a 2nd. If you're going to look at it that way. Pretty solid value. Yes Gaines is a UFA. But we got a solid year's work out of him already and probably have an inside track to signing him long term. I don't think he'll break the bank. Expand Fair point. Gaines gave good value as a 1 year rental, and I'd like to have him back.
PIZ Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 On 1/13/2018 at 12:36 AM, Doc said: The guy I trust is saying it will be Mike Shula. Let's see if he's right. Expand Ask your guy about Chud or Defillipo. Those are the 2 I like.
Perk71 Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 I'm gonna go with an unknown OC as the pick for the Bills. This is all just a guess...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) If McD hires Shula, McD will be out of a job by 2020. He won’t survive to hire a third OC. Edited January 13, 2018 by Coach Tuesday
PolishDave Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 On 1/13/2018 at 4:11 AM, Coach Tuesday said: If McD hires Shula, McD will be out of a job by 2020. He won’t survive to hire a third OC. Expand When you put it that way, it does bring to mind how big of a decision this is for McDermott. He likely won't survive a 3rd one unless the team makes the playoffs again and he fired the new guy next year. Gotta get it right. Like the QB.
Kirby Jackson Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 On 1/13/2018 at 4:11 AM, Coach Tuesday said: If McD hires Shula, McD will be out of a job by 2020. He won’t survive to hire a third OC. Expand That’s an interesting thought and probably true. I think that firing Rico should be considered a feather in his cap. He was able to admit the mistake and pull the plug without worrying about “how does this look for me?” He will have to get it right with the next one but I am thrilled to see that he had the confidence to do it. 2
Coach Tuesday Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 On 1/13/2018 at 4:16 AM, Kirby Jackson said: That’s an interesting thought and probably true. I think that firing Rico should be considered a feather in his cap. He was able to admit the mistake and pull the plug without worrying about “how does this look for me?” He will have to get it right with the next one but I am thrilled to see that he had the confidence to do it. Expand I give him credit for holding his coaches accountable but McD and Beane completely bungled the offense last offseason, from personnel to coaching. The Pegulas give their management folks two chances - as they should. Third prize is you’re fired. 1
MrEpsYtown Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 On 1/13/2018 at 4:16 AM, Kirby Jackson said: That’s an interesting thought and probably true. I think that firing Rico should be considered a feather in his cap. He was able to admit the mistake and pull the plug without worrying about “how does this look for me?” He will have to get it right with the next one but I am thrilled to see that he had the confidence to do it. Expand Well put. I know a lot of fans like continuity, but if something sucks real bad, what is the point of continuity? I'm glad McDermott was willing to pull the plug. I hope he is willing to do the same with one of his cronies in Castillo. 1
Captain_Quint Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 I'm not gonna miss those stupid glasses on the sideline on Sundays. Good riddance!
PolishDave Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 On 1/13/2018 at 4:21 AM, MrEpsYtown said: Well put. I know a lot of fans like continuity, but if something sucks real bad, what is the point of continuity? I'm glad McDermott was willing to pull the plug. I hope he is willing to do the same with one of his cronies in Castillo. Expand Maybe Castillo will be the new Danny Crossman.....UNTOUCHABLE 1
Green Lightning Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 On 1/13/2018 at 3:42 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said: I sit corrected. So we swapped WR and a 2nd for a 3rd. I think it remains to be seen for each trade. Benjamin had roughly the same per-game production as Watkins this year, can't claim we gained there. Certainly if the Bills cut Benjamin after trading a 3rd for him, or pay him $8M because he won't reno into an unknown QB situation, he'll need to produce well next year. If the Rams wind up franchising Watkins for $15.6M or letting him go after trading a 2nd for him, won't look smart of them will it? Expand Benjamin played with a torn miniscus, he wasn't healthy.
SDS Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 How can any fan of a certain age want a !@#$ing Shula on the team? Jesus… 2 2
GunnerBill Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 On 1/13/2018 at 3:44 AM, Woodman19 said: To be fair, all fans usually hate all coaches save for a few examples. It's never favourite players who are at fault. Expand This is 100% true. Fans always blame coaching because they want it to be possible to change 1 guy and the whole thing to get better.
Spiderweb Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) On 1/13/2018 at 8:23 AM, GunnerBill said: This is 100% true. Fans always blame coaching because they want it to be possible to change 1 guy and the whole thing to get better. Expand Bring back to power run blocking scheme full time. That would be a 1 guy decision that would help tremendously. Edit- Meaning that Castillo goes too!!! Edited January 13, 2018 by Spiderweb
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) I just read in the Syracuse article that in the last 7 games we only scored ONE OFFENSIVE TOUCHDOWN in the second half and that was By Kyle Williams !!! On 1/12/2018 at 4:39 PM, Bray Wyatt said: so does Dunkirk Don get credit for this? lol Expand Edited January 13, 2018 by Buffalo Barbarian
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 On 1/12/2018 at 4:42 PM, Shotgunner said: He will claim credit if they hire McCoy. If they hire someone else he will say "things change in the nfl" Expand Didn't he say Ricky was staying ?
GunnerBill Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 On 1/13/2018 at 8:51 AM, Spiderweb said: Bring back to power run blocking scheme full time. That would be a 1 guy decision that would help tremendously. Edit- Meaning that Castillo goes too!!! Expand Which power run blocking scheme? The one Doug Marrone used? Because Roman's scheme was a complete hybrid. We ran plenty of zone blocking under Greg Roman. His scheme had power run concepts in it but it had a lone of zone blocking in it too. A lot of our big play runs in 2016 were inside zone.
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