Teddy KGB Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 I hear some naysayers but I see some strong plays being made all over. Any Rudolph advocates here or everyone think he’s just a blah guy in a monster system ? I see Darnold, Rosen, and Mayfield all gone by 6th in most mocks. 1 Quote
YoloinOhio Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 I don’t think anyone hates him. If so, I missed it. He’s a 1st rounder imo ... if he Slips it won’t be further than the top of the 2nd imo. Quote
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 At this point he's my realistic choice, with Rosen being the only QB I'd be willing to bet the farm on. I wouldn't be surprised if he won the job in camp either, depending on who else we bring in. 1 Quote
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 He checks a lot of the Parcells buckets for a QB. He could be good a couple years down the road. 1 Quote
Woodman19 Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 I'm high on him. Sit him for a year and drill him on foot work and baby you got yourself a stew going! 4 Quote
Dkollidas Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 I like him, and I think the organization does too. He’s improved every year. He’s completed over 62% of his passes every season except as a true freshman (3 games and was around 57%). He doesn’t have a rocket arm, but has enough to make every throw, and is accurate downfield. He has has a good throwing motion, and quick release, things that help with accuracy and are more difficult to change than footwork. Most of his innacurate throws can be blamed on bad footwork. With simple changes here he can be a better player. He can’t be blamed for the system he plays in. He played great in that system. If he’s smart enough (which I think he is), he’ll be able to adjust and learn a new system (although I would say to let him sit for at least half a season). He has good pocket presence, knows when to step up in the pocket. To me I think he’ll be the 2nd or 3rd best QB in the draft. Darnold has great intangibles but has small hands that will lead to more fumble issues, a wonky throwing motion, which leads to a slow release. I personally put a lot of emphasis on a Quarterbacks release time. If they get rid of it quick they’ll be more likely to succeed (ball reaches its point faster, less chance of taking sacks, etc.) Mayfield has the height issues, and doesn’t make enough throws inside the pocket in my opinion. A lot of his stuff is roll outs and the type of stuff they tried to use here in the past with Tyrod. He’s going to get pressured to much on the edge in the NFL versus college. Also if Rudolph gets ripped for playing in a spread, Mayfield also plays in a spread, so what’s the difference. Also Mayfield has one of the best offensive lines in college football and doesn’t deal with a lot of pressure in his face. This doesn’t touch on his off-field issues (the arrest) or potential for on-field issues (crotch grabbing at Kansas, flag spiking at Ohio st., and “throat slice gesture”, before eventually losing to Georgia). 3 Quote
Woodman19 Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Dkollidas said: I like him, and I think the organization does too. He’s improved every year. He’s completed over 62% of his passes every season except as a true freshman (3 games and was around 57%). He doesn’t have a rocket arm, but has enough to make every throw, and is accurate downfield. He has has a good throwing motion, and quick release, things that help with accuracy and are more difficult to change than footwork. Most of his innacurate throws can be blamed on bad footwork. With simple changes here he can be a better player. He can’t be blamed for the system he plays in. He played great in that system. If he’s smart enough (which I think he is), he’ll be able to adjust and learn a new system (although I would say to let him sit for at least half a season). He has good pocket presence, knows when to step up in the pocket. To me I think he’ll be the 2nd or 3rd best QB in the draft. Darnold has great intangibles but has small hands that will lead to more fumble issues, a wonky throwing motion, which leads to a slow release. I personally put a lot of emphasis on a Quarterbacks release time. If they get rid of it quick they’ll be more likely to succeed (ball reaches its point faster, less chance of taking sacks, etc.) Mayfield has the height issues, and doesn’t make enough throws inside the pocket in my opinion. A lot of his stuff is roll outs and the type of stuff they tried to use here in the past with Tyrod. He’s going to get pressured to much on the edge in the NFL versus college. Also if Rudolph gets ripped for playing in a spread, Mayfield also plays in a spread, so what’s the difference. Also Mayfield has one of the best offensive lines in college football and doesn’t deal with a lot of pressure in his face. This doesn’t touch on his off-field issues (the arrest) or potential for on-field issues (crotch grabbing at Kansas, flag spiking at Ohio st., and “throat slice gesture”, before eventually losing to Georgia). Completely agree, I think he would be a match made in heaven for the WCO with the way he goes through his reads, steps up in the pocket and touch to complete down field throws. 1 Quote
Jay_Fixit Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 3 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: At this point he's my realistic choice, with Rosen being the only QB I'd be willing to bet the farm on. I wouldn't be surprised if he won the job in camp either, depending on who else we bring in. You’d bet the farm on Rosen? I just see a nice looking truck with a really shotty engine. Rosen would scare the balls off of me. I wouldn’t bet the farm on any of the QB’s coming out this year. Quote
Chicken Boo Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 1 hour ago, McBean said: I love Rudolph. Same. Outside of Rosen, Rudolph is the rookie I want the Bills to draft. Not enthusiastic about any of the other guys. 1 Quote
Billsfansinceday1 Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 I think Rudolph is terrific. Not everybody agrees but I am not sure there is hatred. 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 Leading question self-selects I guess. Lots of folks that like Rudolph chime in. I'm glad he led the sleigh and all that, but he's my least favorite of the top qbs. Quote
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 10, 2018 Posted January 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Dr. Who said: Leading question self-selects I guess. Lots of folks that like Rudolph chime in. I'm glad he led the sleigh and all that, but he's my least favorite of the top qbs. His nose will be red from the Buffalo weather! 1 Quote
LeGOATski Posted January 10, 2018 Posted January 10, 2018 He's currently my favorite pick for the Bills. It'd be great if they didn't have to trade up for him. 2 Quote
ddaryl Posted January 10, 2018 Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) I would have to research more via scouting reports and chats (yes I am simply a fan who takes in what he can and forms a fan opinion) ... I was originally under the perception he would go before us but Now I'm thinking he wil be there possibly into the 2nd rd.. Its going to come down to his arm strength showcase at pro days and combine iMO I wouldn't be moving up to grab him, but I do think we could be looking at him with one of our 1st rd picks Edited January 10, 2018 by ddaryl Quote
simool Posted January 10, 2018 Posted January 10, 2018 He has a lot of potential and looks really good on film, my problem is coming from the Big 12 what is he going to look like when there is an actual defense on the field? Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted January 10, 2018 Posted January 10, 2018 Big BIG Rudolph fan here. He's my #1 choice for our draft pick this year. 1 Quote
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 10, 2018 Posted January 10, 2018 29 minutes ago, simool said: He has a lot of potential and looks really good on film, my problem is coming from the Big 12 what is he going to look like when there is an actual defense on the field? He had a slow start, but recovered well against my Hokies who have a very respectable Defense, primarily because of their secondary. I came away from the bowl game impressed. Quote
simool Posted January 10, 2018 Posted January 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: He had a slow start, but recovered well against my Hokies who have a very respectable Defense, primarily because of their secondary. I came away from the bowl game impressed. First of all. Hokies fan, I am really sorry about that. Hopefully you can either cut that off or get a pill for it. The Hokies have a chump schedule. They only played 3 games against ranked opponents. Lost all three and did not lose in defensive games. All three rang your bell I would say. Quote
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