Steptide Posted January 8, 2018 Author Posted January 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, TBDlurkerSINCE07 said: How about Benjamin doesn't commit OPI and it's second and goal from the 1? Three chances to run it in. KB deserves some blame here too. I agree, and also this isn't a blame Dennison and not Tyrod thread. I'm done with Tyrod and have been since the saints game. 1
Heavy Kevi Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, Commonsense said: Run, run, run, pass/kick It's extremely hard for a defense to keep you out of the end zone with that sequence. This. I get wanting to throw to a 70 foot tall receiver, but 3 runs from the 1 gets in more often than not.
BuffaloFan32 Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 I don't think this was as terrible as people think. There is a very low probability that something bad happens on a fade. Tyrod thought he would have two more plays from the 1.
bmur66 Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 How about Benjamin doesn't commit OPI and catches the ball. Of course this would have required Tyrod to put the ball where he could catch it. No wonder it didn't work.
stony Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 I think Tyrod threw that pass because he realized how badly he screwed up on that crap fade route he threw. Benjamin played the back shoulder on the play and was open. Wouldn't surprised me if it was going through his mind. Either way, run the ball up the gut.
CommonCents Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Shotgunner said: This. I get wanting to throw to a 70 foot tall receiver, but 3 runs from the 1 gets in more often than not. Right. Jacksonville has two of the top corners in the NFL. Ramsey is super athletic, no reason to throw near him. I don't care if Yao Ming is split wide. Just run it.
JPP Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 Should of ran the friggin ball...we are a run based team....we got Fat Tolbert to do these kinda plays...isnt that why he is here but no...we tend to use him on 2nd and long...3rd and long.....Taylor is done here....im fine with that but Dennision needs to go ASAP! the guy has been beyond terrible all season long...there should be no arguement about that.....
KW95 - JA17 Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 12 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: Watch more NFL. It's EXTREMELY hard to just run the ball in on goal to go from the one. The vast majority of successful runs from that distance come off misdirection, a play that hits the outside when everyone is selling out on the inside. The play to Benjamin is a standard NFL call. Benjamin just got caught with his hand in the cookie jar on the OPI. Read my post better! Im talking about Tolbert on the 1 versus MCcoy. Being bigger doesnt give you more chances of getting a TD! McCoy would be better with his cutting and speed over big fat Tolbert who only runs straight!
Magox Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 It was Dennison's fault because they should have just ran it. It was Tyrod's fault because he should have just called the handoff. It was Kelvin's fault because he shouldn't have pushed off. Plenty of blame to go around. And if you look at how the play would have developed the Jag defense didn't get any penetration and it would have most likely have been a touchdown if he had handed it off to Shady. Sad 2
KW95 - JA17 Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Magox said: It was Dennison's fault because they should have just ran it. It was Tyrod's fault because he should have just called the handoff. It was Kelvin's fault because he shouldn't have pushed off. Plenty of blame to go around. And if you look at how the play would have developed the Jag defense didn't get any penetration and it would have most likely have been a touchdown if he had handed it off to Shady. Sad This: They were out there for almost 8-9 minutes: They were giving that TD easily
klos63 Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, dneveu said: Thats all well and good. I don't think it was a terrible call to throw. It's Benjamins fault that he got OPI. Not Dennison or Tyrod. poor throw by Taylor, bad play by Benjamin on the PI- we had a good matchup, didn't execute.
HappyDays Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 If Dennison called a RPO that means there was a pass option. I don't know what the argument is. There should have been no option. Of course they will stack the box. From the 2 you run it anyways.
Alaska Darin Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 The NFL is about execution and always has been. Brady has been murdering us with short yardage passing for almost 2 decades now. It's not too much to ask for your QB to throw an accurate pass in the red zone. The reality of the goal line play is it wouldn't have been required if Taylor had hit the wide open O'Leary for a TD a few plays earlier. Dennison called a great game yesterday but our limited QB couldn't make the plays. Lather, rinse, repeat. 3
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Alaska Darin said: The NFL is about execution and always has been. Brady has been murdering us with short yardage passing for almost 2 decades now. It's not too much to ask for your QB to throw an accurate pass in the red zone. The reality of the goal line play is it wouldn't have been required if Taylor had hit the wide open O'Leary for a TD a few plays earlier. Dennison called a great game yesterday but our limited QB couldn't make the plays. Lather, rinse, repeat. Stop just blaming taylor. There were several drops - miscues, penalties. Several missed blocks and screw ups by the protection. He had a bad game, but so did virtually everyone else.
Alaska Darin Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, dneveu said: Stop just blaming taylor. There were several drops - miscues, penalties. Several missed blocks and screw ups by the protection. He had a bad game, but so did virtually everyone else. Uh...nope. The QB is the leader of the team and the most important position in the sport. There's a reason great QBs play on great offenses. They lead by example and their teammates work to match their standard. Taylor is what he is and the offense mirrors him. At least he kept us from getting hammered in Foxboro this week. So there's that. 1
oldmanfan Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 I had no problem with the call. That's a big reason they got Benjamin, have a big WR to go get the ball in the end zone. Was a bad pass and a bad PI push off by him. If they had run and got stuffed I would have equally not had a problem with the call.
Livinginthepast Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 The shot of the Jags D on the bench after the FG was pretty telling. They looked exhausted. They would have been ripe for run up the gut. Not to mention they had just got the Bills off the field and then had the gut punch penalty. They were probably pretty deflated. We should have punched it in with Tolbert or better yet sneaked it with TT. Why is it that Brady (the most important QB ever) is OK with sneaking the ball and is very successful but the rest of the NFL is too scared to risk their QB getting pounded in the pile? Hell if TT was too scared or fragile, sneak Mighty Joe Webb and make the Jags stop you. Instead this was the play of the game and swung momentum right back to the Jags. If we score a TD there the Jags D is tired and frustrated. Instead we give them a boost with a really bad playcall. Just like the days of Kevin Gilbride. 1
Royale with Cheese Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 https://www.pscp.tv/w/1OyKAdgbZWyxb YardsPerTwitter breakdown.
Johnny Hammersticks Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 25 minutes ago, klos63 said: poor throw by Taylor, bad play by Benjamin on the PI- we had a good matchup, didn't execute. Warched the replay a few times, and it looked like Tyrod threw the corner fade and KB was expecting a quick back shoulder throw near the pylon. Wonder who was wrong there...OPI aside?
CommonCents Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Warched the replay a few times, and it looked like Tyrod threw the corner fade and KB was expecting a quick back shoulder throw near the pylon. Wonder who was wrong there...OPI aside? IIRC Romo said the same thing on the broadcast.
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