Doc Brown Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, gobills1212 said: I find it funny when people simply break down the point further as if it's essentially an argument. I get it... trust me... smh. Have fun with your delorian playing that one out. Don't forget to account for the wind condition. Meanwhile, looking forward to next year's season and potential playoff game might be a better use of ones time. Its over. It was a fun ride, but it is what it is. This is what 2017 was meant to be. Retool and look ahead to 2018. If not...well...maybe when the answer has been reached youll choose to go back and evaluate how the Broncos season would have played out w tyrod on the roster. At least that'll keep you busy while meaningful discussion is happening elsewhere. That's true and it pry didn't deserve its own thread, but that had to be going through the mind of Beane and McDermott today. What QB can we get so we put up more than three points against a quality defense like this? Would the presnap blocking adjustments Taylor failed to make be made by Smith (or any potential FA QB)? You then go back to the tape and look at those QB's in similar situations. It's just a small part of the evaluation process when it comes to the offseason. Edited January 8, 2018 by Doc Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 48 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Smith is meh and that's why he's about to be on his 3rd team. Smith is meh Tyrod is garbage and is also about to be on his third team. Of course not as a starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: That's true and it pry didn't deserve its own thread, but that had to be going through the mind of Beane and McDermott today. What QB can we get so we put up more than three points against a quality defense like this? Would the presnap blocking adjustments Taylor failed to make be made by Smith (or any potential FA QB)? You then go back to the tape and look at those QB's in similar situations. It's just a small part of the evaluation process when it comes to the offseason. It's a perfectly reasonable question since everyone knows Smith will be on the trading block starting, umm, yesterday. And given that Bortles looked about as bad as any playoff QB can in the first half, both of these teams would be nuts not to at least explore what it would take to get Smith for 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Smith's playoff record is 1-4 with the Chiefs. And yet, Smith has been unable to engineer the required offense to win the playoff games he's played, including yesterday's against the Flaming Thumbtacks. Is it not somewhat dishonest to ignore Smith's playoff record? And he's now 2-5 overall, but this is the 2nd game with KC (Indy in 2013) where he did his part to get a big lead that they couldn't hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: It's a perfectly reasonable question since everyone knows Smith will be on the trading block starting, umm, yesterday. And given that Bortles looked about as bad as any playoff QB can in the first half, both of these teams would be nuts not to at least explore what it would take to get Smith for 2018. I would say even more for the Jaguars whose defense is outstanding. Smith would be a perfect fit there and they could really do some damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, Doc Brown said: I would say even more for the Jaguars whose defense is outstanding. Smith would be a perfect fit there and they could really do some damage. Right. Bortles was so bad in the 1st half that if Alex Smith was in there instead this game wouldn't have even been close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 57 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Taylor would overthrow them or not throw to them. Something Smith doesn’t do. Smith is significantly better than Taylor and it’s not even close. Smith a little less agile version of Tyrod Taylor. Alex Smith consistently tucks and runs instead of thread a dart to open receivers down field. Watching the Chiefs yesterday and Bills today made me think of how similarly average those two are. 2 seasons ago Alex Smith didn’t have a TD pass to a wide receiver for a while season... that’s incredibly pathetic I hope neither are part of our future plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, B-Large said: Smith a little less agile version of Tyrod Taylor. Alex Smith consistently tucks and runs instead of thread a dart to open receivers down field. Watching the Chiefs yesterday and Bills today made me think of how similarly average those two are. 2 seasons ago Alex Smith didn’t have a TD pass to a wide receiver for a while season... that’s incredibly pathetic I hope neither are part of our future plans Passer Rating Leaders - Qualified RK PLAYER TEAM COMP ATT PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G 1 Alex Smith, QB KC 341 505 67.5 4,042 8.00 79 26 5 35 104.7 269 2 Drew Brees, QB NO 386 536 72.0 4,334 8.09 54 23 8 20 103.9 271 3 Tom Brady, QB NE 385 581 66.3 4,577 7.88 64 32 8 35 102.8 286 4 Carson Wentz, QB PHI 265 440 60.2 3,296 7.49 72 33 7 28 101.9 254 5 Jared Goff, QB LAR 296 477 62.1 3,804 7.98 94 28 7 25 100.5 254 6 Matthew Stafford, QB DET 371 565 65.7 4,446 7.87 71 29 10 47 99.3 278 7 Case Keenum, QB MIN 325 481 67.6 3,547 7.37 65 22 7 22 98.3 236 8 Aaron Rodgers, QB GB 154 238 64.7 1,675 7.04 72 16 6 22 97.2 239 9 Philip Rivers, QB LAC 360 575 62.6 4,515 7.85 75 28 10 18 96.0 282 10 Russell Wilson, QB SEA 339 553 61.3 3,983 7.20 74 34 11 43 95.4 249 RK PLAYER TEAM COMP ATT PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G 11 Josh McCown, QB NYJ 267 397 67.3 2,926 7.37 69 18 9 39 94.5 225 12 Kirk Cousins, QB WSH 347 540 64.3 4,093 7.58 74 27 13 41 93.9 256 13 Ben Roethlisberger, QB PIT 360 561 64.2 4,251 7.58 97 28 14 21 93.4 283 14 Jameis Winston, QB TB 282 442 63.8 3,504 7.93 70 19 11 33 92.2 270 15 Matt Ryan, QB ATL 342 529 64.7 4,095 7.74 88 20 12 24 91.4 256 16 Tyrod Taylor, QB BUF 263 420 62.6 2,799 6.66 47 14 4 46 89.2 187 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Jacksonville should make a push for A. Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'd just like to point out that the Chiefs have, in fact, not yet moved on from 'Alex the Great'. If they do, it is likely to be strictly a salary-cap driven decision. Right now the Chiefs are projected $4.8M in the red for the new league year. They have to do something, and cutting or trading Smith saves them ~$10M in cap space. Their other two top-paid players are already signed through 2020 or 2021, so they probably don't want to renegotiate their contracts, and with Mahomes waiting, they probably don't want to extend Smith either. This Smith's contract isn't that expensive for an NFL QB. They plan to move on from him because they see Mahomes as the guy that can take them beyond just making the playoffs with 1st round exits every year, so it's much more than a cap consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Easily. Bortles was doing that EJ Manuel thing, deciding how to aim/throw mid motion. It was so bad and so noticeable. As soon as he started doing it everyone knew he would turn it over but Tre dropped the gimme. After that he decided to use his legs and stop throwing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I don't care. I don't want to watch Alex Smith. Keep drafting guys until you hit on one. At least they have potential. 7 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: But the question here is more like, "would this offense, QB'd by Alex Smith, put up at least a TD + 2 point conversion and a FG." With the bar set that low, I say yes. So our goal is just to beat Jacksonville in a wild card game? I was happy they made it, more happy than I expected. But I do not want to become the Texans or chiefs and make the playoffs and just lose. Alex Smith has shown that's what he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 On a scale of 1 to 10 Smith is a 6 to 7ish. Taylor is a 4 to 5ish. There, upgrade but not game changing. Smith is definitely a better QB for dennisions system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I like Alex Smith but we need a deep threat. Tyreek Hill was really good this year. 1,183 yards and 7 TDs on just 75 receptions. Smith had the best passer rating in the league and Tyreek Hill was a big part of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, HappyDays said: I like Alex Smith but we need a deep threat. Tyreek Hill was really good this year. 1,183 yards and 7 TDs on just 75 receptions. Smith had the best passer rating in the league and Tyreek Hill was a big part of that. Don't forget Kelce as a big factor in his success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 8 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said: He threw for more yards in the first half than Taylor did in the game. Not his fault they stopped giving it to Hunt. Taylor is terrible and I’m glad he’s going to be gone. Almost doubled taylors yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Don't forget Kelce as a big factor in his success. Dont forget Kelce would have 20 catches a season with Taylor as qb Edited January 8, 2018 by Teddy KGB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 8 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He couldn't even lead his own team to victory yesterday. To be fair, that may have been the worst called games I have ever Seen. The Chiefs got royally jobbed. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/referee-jeff-triplette-reportedly-retiring-after-questionable-performance-in-nfl-playoffs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, CountDorkula said: To be fair, that may have been the worst called games I have ever Seen. The Chiefs got royally jobbed. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/referee-jeff-triplette-reportedly-retiring-after-questionable-performance-in-nfl-playoffs/ Don't want to hear it. Up 21-3 and blew the game. Another Reid and Smith Playoff Choke Job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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