jrober38 Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, CuddyDark said: My guess, 21. DT 22. DT Would probably make the biggest positive impact in 2018. We desperately need to get more talent at the point of attack to push the pocket and rush the passer, and eat up blocks to allow our linebackers to run to the ball. Vea and one of the 3-techniques like Hurst or Wilkins would be amazing.
Iverwig Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 Buffalo will not have either of these picks because they will trade up to move up in the draft.
Wayne Arnold Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Would probably make the biggest positive impact in 2018. We desperately need to get more talent at the point of attack to push the pocket and rush the passer, and eat up blocks to allow our linebackers to run to the ball. Vea and one of the 3-techniques like Hurst or Wilkins would be amazing. Who da quarterback tho??!
Iverwig Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 32 minutes ago, Bad Things Man said: !st Rounds Any combination of: R. Smith V. Vea M. Hurst 2nd Round Trade for Alex Smith, Huge Roquan fan but he will be gone early in the draft.
Bangarang Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 34 minutes ago, Bad Things Man said: !st Rounds Any combination of: R. Smith V. Vea M. Hurst 2nd Round Trade for Alex Smith, I would break a lot of things if the only QB we got out of all our draft picks was Alex !@#$ing Smith. Can we stop waiting until a QB falls into our laps and actually take a chance on someone!? 1
Chuck Wagon Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, KelsaysLunchbox said: If you like Rudolph in the second, you take him in the first. Don't play around. If you feel he can be the guy you don't lose him. I don't feel like he could be the guy. But given we have two 1st and two 2nds, I'm fine taking a flier on a guy in round 2 vs using a top 22 pick on him.
Johnny Hammersticks Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 21- Rashaan Evans ILB Bama 22- Maurice Hurst DT Michigan 1
K-Apps Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, KelsaysLunchbox said: If you like Rudolph in the second, you take him in the first. Don't play around. If you feel he can be the guy you don't lose him. No, because who is to say he’s not EJ Manuel. It’s not hard pick the BPA in both spots hopefully that’s LB and D-Linemen.
StevieJohnsonGOAT Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 Screw drafting defense. Jaguars have by far the best defense in the league and they have no chance at winning the super bowl because their QB sucks. I hope the Bills trade up for one of the top QBs. 1
OldTimer1960 Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 19 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: I can see them trading up to pick 15 or so but not much further up than that I am with you. I don't really see a QB in this draft that is such a certainty that they should give up the farm to move all the way to the top. Rosen and Darnold are interesting prospects, but not sure things. I like what I've seen of Mayfield, but his size could become an issue in the NFL. Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson have tools, but are far from sure things and Mason Rudolph has questions. To be clear, I think all are decent to good QB prospects and would not be opposed to one of the Bills' 1st rounders being used on one, but I wouldn't give up more than a 1st and a 2nd to move up for any of these guys unless the Bills think that one of these guys is almost certain to be good.
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 13 minutes ago, K-Apps said: No, because who is to say he’s not EJ Manuel. It’s not hard pick the BPA in both spots hopefully that’s LB and D-Linemen. And who is to say he's not Jim Kelly? And who is to say whoever your "surefire" 1st rounder you draft instead isn't Tony Mandrich? Point is you can't win the lotto if you don't have a ticket. BPA is certainly "not hard" when you have a QB. When you have Aaron Rodgers, sure take a flier on Hundley early. Doesn't work out...so be it. When you have bupkis at the position you draft one you like, one that you feel good about tying your career on and take him. Take him a round before the "experts" think because if you don't someone else sure will.
K-Apps Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, KelsaysLunchbox said: And who is to say he's not Jim Kelly? And who is to say whoever your "surefire" 1st rounder you draft instead isn't Tony Mandrich? Point is you can't win the lotto if you don't have a ticket. BPA is certainly "not hard" when you have a QB. When you have Aaron Rodgers, sure take a flier on Hundley early. Doesn't work out...so be it. When you have bupkis at the position you draft one you like, one that you feel good about tying your career on and take him. Take him a round before the "experts" think because if you don't someone else sure will. My point is why force a pick above what he is projected, if Rudolph is projected a 2nd-3rd round that’s where you pick him there if he’s there. If you want waste another pick like when the Bills picked EJ Manuel and JP Losman instead improving your team in other areas instead of QB, be my guess. I rather build my team like the Vikings where it’s a strong overall roster and the QB just has to competent. Edited January 8, 2018 by K-Apps
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, K-Apps said: My point is why force a pick above what he is projected, if Rudolph is projected a 2nd-3rd round that’s where you pick him there if he’s there. If you want waste another pick like when the Bills picked EJ Manuel and JP Losman instead improving your team in other areas instead of QB, be my guess. I rather build my team like the Vikings where it’s a strong overall roster and the QB just has to competent. You do realize that the Vikes actually drafted a QB (Bridgewater) over where some had him projected, then burned and the 1st when Teddy got hurt (that's 2 1st right there if you're keeping score) only to get by this season from a freaky season by Keenum that if I'm a betting man would say he will never have again...right? That's the model you like? So in short, they spend 2 firsts only to have Case Keenum take over. Not great long term planning. Sounds all very Fitzpatrickish to me...and we have all seen that movie before.
jrober38 Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wayne Arnold said: Who da quarterback tho??! Not sure. Maybe Alex Smith or Case Keenum for a year or two. I don't think we'll be willing to part with the draft capital required to move from where we are into the top 8 for one of the top guys. We'll need to give up 3 first rounders at least which is an enormous ask in my eyes. I think that's a huge risk, and think the Bills should hedge their bets, by acquiring a competent veteran, and drafting another guy in round 2 or 3. Edited January 8, 2018 by jrober38
BuffaloFan68 Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 20 hours ago, NewDayBills said: I'd take Mason Rudolph with the 1st pick, with the other 1st I'd trade down and pick up an extra 2nd and 3rd, then I'd send Kansas City one of our 2nds for Alex Smith that's contingent on a contract extension being signed, something like 4 years 72 million for Smith, sit Rudolph on the bench until Smith retires. 1.) Mason Rudolph 1.) Trade 2.) To KC for Alex Smith 2.) Extra pick 2.) Extra pick 3.) Extra pick 3.) Extra pick I'd be pretty stoked about this if we can make it happen.
maryland-bills-fan Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 21 hours ago, Rico said: #21 Baker Mayfield #22 Josh Allen You have to have enough repetitions to develop and evaluate a QB. We will have a new veteran starter (or TT) to get familiar with the team and there is not enough plays on the practice field or preseason games to work on two new QV's.
Chuck Wagon Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, K-Apps said: My point is why force a pick above what he is projected, if Rudolph is projected a 2nd-3rd round that’s where you pick him there if he’s there. If you want waste another pick like when the Bills picked EJ Manuel and JP Losman instead improving your team in other areas instead of QB, be my guess. I rather build my team like the Vikings where it’s a strong overall roster and the QB just has to competent. I agree with you completely. I firmly believe our offensive coaching and offensive skill talent is not at a level that will let any young QB succeed here. Look at Goff, everyone was ready to write him off as a bust last year, the Rams brought in a dynamic offensive coach, a new LT and Center and 3 WRs and suddenly he's on the right track. On the flip side, Dak was hailed as the second coming, but Zeke gets suspended, Dez is a shell of his former self and suddenly the vibe is "what's wrong with Dak, did we crown him too soon"?
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 20 hours ago, NewDayBills said: I'd take Mason Rudolph with the 1st pick, with the other 1st I'd trade down and pick up an extra 2nd and 3rd, then I'd send Kansas City one of our 2nds for Alex Smith that's contingent on a contract extension being signed, something like 4 years 72 million for Smith, sit Rudolph on the bench until Smith retires. 1.) Mason Rudolph 1.) Trade 2.) To KC for Alex Smith 2.) Extra pick 2.) Extra pick 3.) Extra pick 3.) Extra pick ...nicely done.......
Woodman19 Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 Shoe on the other foot question. Say we own pick #2. Do you take an offer from say Jacksonville for 22, 23, 50 and a 1st next year?
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