billieve420 Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) I am not giving up anything significant for Alex smith who is about a lateral move as there is. If he becomes a cap casualty then yes I would take a look. He would be perfect on a veteran team with a good defense like the Broncos. I wouldn’t mind going after the Cincy backup QB while drafting one early as well and then sorting it all out in training camp. Edited January 7, 2018 by billieve420
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Bangarang said: Draft one please. Don’t go looking at other team’s backups or aging vets. We will have to move up to do that. Not sure of the cost. There are a lot of teams ahead of us needing a QB. History says 1-2 will work out. Not many years 3+ QB's have made an impact in their first few years. Cleveland Denver NY Jets Arizona They ALL NEED A QB now and will draft one. NY Giants Miami Cindy Washington Chargers They are in the market and might pull the trigger early. To get the #5 QB we would need to trade up. Rosen, Darnold, Jackson, Allen, Mayfield, Rudolph and Finley, If one of these guys is left, is he really the franchise? Is he worth losing a 1st or 2nd for Who drops to #21. Would you bank the 2018 season on him? I say draft whoever falls or trade up if you absolutely believe this is your franchise QB. Then pick up a Vet who will throw downfield. As much as I want to blame Dennison, TT leaves plays all over the field. His avg time of release is 3.1 seconds. (dead last in the NFL) No coordinator can appear competent with that. I'd love Cousins, but he is too costly and will set the team back. Smith and Keenum seem to be the most viable options. If McCarron or Chase Daniel become available, they might be worth a shot. We are not in a great position to find our franchise QB in this draft, unless we pull a Texan sized move or Chief move and trade the farm to move up to the 4 spot. 3 or 4 QB's could go in the top 10 in this draft.
BillsfanAZ Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 I think trading for Smith or sign him if he is released. I think the trade would work for a 5th round pick. The Chiefs have his replacement that they will want to get on the field. Smith is under contract through 2018 and would be a good mentor if the Bills draft a QB
Big Gun Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, billsfan89 said: I know a lot of people here are high on Alex Smith but I just don't see it. Smith's numbers in KC when he had less offensive weapons are very similar to what Tyrod put up these past 3 seasons. They counted on a great defense and a QB who didn't turn the ball over to win games. The one good offensive year he had was the 5th year in an offensive system under a great offensive coach and with 3 great offensive weapons. Put Smith around this level of offensive talent, learning a new system, and with this OC and I think the results are pretty much the same as Tyrod. There is obviously a lot you don't see if you still support Tyrod.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Shotgunner said: This is what seems to be the popular choice. I would be ok with that depending on what we give up. He threw for 4000 yards and only had I think one more INT than Taylor. One might note that his record as a playoff QB is 2-5, 1-4 with KC. They have none of them been blowouts, they have all been winnable games. But if we're looking for a solution at QB who can find an extra gear when needed, Alex Smith is perhaps not the man. 1
Big Gun Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 58 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: Tyrod's 'weapons' did not distinguish themselves this season. How could they when they had crap for a QB.
The Jokeman Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 2 hours ago, mjd1001 said: I don't hate Taylor..but he is what he is...an average to slightly below average starting QB. Can you win some games with him...maybe a playoff game? Sure, but to be a true superbowl contender, you need better. I'll take any new guys because I know what I have now is not good enough. The term is game manager.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, BUFFALOBART said: We do not any 'Dynamic Offensive Weapons', other than Shady. That being said, if Bills fans want to see Tyrod cut, than take Peterman along with him. The guy is a joke..... Right on! Benjamin might be, but he has been on and off the field, no time to build rapport and probably barely to learn the offense. One need only compare and contrast other teams WR to ours watching games to say, yes TT is a problem but we aren't helping him out any. I found Romo's commentary very interesting. I thought he was very fair. He called out our receivers/backs for missing what he said were "good throws" by TT. He also called out TT for missing open guys or hesitating to pull the trigger. It was interesting to have that perspective - both sides of the pass game are problems right now. 2
Dr. K Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, BUFFALOBART said: Disagree. After #87 went down for the 'Chefs', the offense collapsed, and their "D" couldn't stop anyone..Alex Jones, is a brittle, one dimensional starter, and would be a lateral move from Tyrod. And his nut-bag right wing radio show sucks, too.
Reed83HOF Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: One might note that his record as a playoff QB is 2-5, 1-4 with KC. They have none of them been blowouts, they have all been winnable games. But if we're looking for a solution at QB who can find an extra gear when needed, Alex Smith is perhaps not the man. No thanks on the retreads. Franchise QBs simply do not become FAs or are very rarely traded. History is littered with more Rob Johnsons & Matt Cassels than Favres and possibly Garappolos
GunnerBill Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 I mentioned this in the game thread as well but Jeff Reinbold the CFL coach who is a regular on UK NFL TV coverage said he doesn't expect Tyrod back in Buffalo next year because he spoke to Rob (as in Ryan) when he did a stint for 3 weeks as a guest analyst on UK TV earlier in the season and he said the desire to move on from Tyrod comes from he Pegulas and goes above the Head Coach. I alluded earlier in the season to comments Rob made on air during his stint here when he said around the Chargers game "the folks in the building are always trying to get rid of Tyrod and I don't know why." I speculated at the time that given the whole front office the Ryans worked with had been cleared out that he had to be referring to ownership. Reinbold's comments today confirm that is exactly who Rob Ryan meant.
Green Lightning Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Bangarang said: Draft one please. Don’t go looking at other team’s backups or aging vets. Draft one, and sign Alex Smith to school him.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 Thank god the Taylor era is over! He isn’t horrible but he can’t win it all, that’s why you play the game.
ColoradoBills Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: Draft one, and sign Alex Smith to school him. Pretty reasonable and simple answer. also, do people want TT or Alex teaches a 1st round draft pick how to read defenses.
Big Gun Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I mentioned this in the game thread as well but Jeff Reinbold the CFL coach who is a regular on UK NFL TV coverage said he doesn't expect Tyrod back in Buffalo next year because he spoke to Rob (as in Ryan) when he did a stint for 3 weeks as a guest analyst on UK TV earlier in the season and he said the desire to move on from Tyrod comes from he Pegulas and goes above the Head Coach. I alluded earlier in the season to comments Rob made on air during his stint here when he said around the Chargers game "the folks in the building are always trying to get rid of Tyrod and I don't know why." I speculated at the time that given the whole front office the Ryans worked with had been cleared out that he had to be referring to ownership. Reinbold's comments today confirm that is exactly who Rob Ryan meant. Good, so TPegs is done with Tyrod also.
Bangarang Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: Draft one, and sign Alex Smith to school him. Smith won’t be a free agent for that to happen 13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I mentioned this in the game thread as well but Jeff Reinbold the CFL coach who is a regular on UK NFL TV coverage said he doesn't expect Tyrod back in Buffalo next year because he spoke to Rob (as in Ryan) when he did a stint for 3 weeks as a guest analyst on UK TV earlier in the season and he said the desire to move on from Tyrod comes from he Pegulas and goes above the Head Coach. I alluded earlier in the season to comments Rob made on air during his stint here when he said around the Chargers game "the folks in the building are always trying to get rid of Tyrod and I don't know why." I speculated at the time that given the whole front office the Ryans worked with had been cleared out that he had to be referring to ownership. Reinbold's comments today confirm that is exactly who Rob Ryan meant. I really don’t want ownership getting involved in personnel decisions like this. Edited January 8, 2018 by Bangarang 1
GunnerBill Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: I really don’t want ownership getting involved in personnel decisions like this. Nor me. While I think they are right on Tyrod the starting QB should not be their decision. 1
hemma Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 If we don't move on from Taylor, we peaked on 1/7/2018. 1
Bangarang Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Nor me. While I think they are right on Tyrod the starting QB should not be their decision. I think they are right in wanting to move on but that’s why you hire pro personnel guys to make that decision 1
Romie Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 TT Will always have a special place in our heart for breaking the drought. But he missed throws today that could have won the game.
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