ProcessTheTrust Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 Draft a QB and go with whoever Minny parts ways with for our stop gap till the Rook is ready. 3
Zebrastripes Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I have been watching all season, I have also seen who the Bills were throwing out at QB for the past 14 years before then. Although you could do a lot better than Tyrod I think you can do much much worse. If the choice is Alex Smith or Tyrod Taylor, a 2nd round pick, and 4.5 million dollars in cap space give me the latter. I would rather draft a rookie and have him beat out Tyrod. Having a decent QB such as Tyrod is a luxury, allow a rookie to sit for their first season, if they play good enough to beat out Tyrod then fine, but you don't address the QB situation by getting rid of the QB and not having a coherent plan in place to do so. Problem is having a rookie qb sit behind tyrod does nothing for his development. Tyrod offers nothing to teach or show the qb of the future. We need to bring in a true pocket passer and let a rookie learn the ropes from him. 1
RobH063 Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 A 56 yard passing game, a 65 yard passing game, three 3 point total point performances and there's still people that support Taylor? Unbelievable! 5
billsfan89 Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, leonbus23 said: Nonsense. Smith is way better. But I think they need to draft a QB high in the 1st round. I'd say Smith is at best a marginal upgrade. Compare Smith numbers his first 4 years with KC to Tyrod's three years here in Buffalo, they are pretty similar. KC's defense has been way more consistent that's why they made the playoffs. It was only this past year in Alex Smith's 5th season in the same offensive system with 3 dynamic weapons (Hill, Kelce, and now Hunt) and a solid offensive line that he had even a good season. I am not saying Tyrod is that good but just that Smith isn't that much better.
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 After watching Taylor today there is no trade value. The only thing we need to do is release Taylor for the cap savings. It should be quick and clean and two years over due. 1
WhoTom Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 27 minutes ago, Joaquin1119 said: Bengals end the drought for us If the Bills don't win 9 games, the Bengals game is irrelevant.
MAJBobby Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 Andy makes the throw to Deonte Thompson against the Cover 4 on the first play of the final drive for a game tieing TD 1
K D Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 The Bills might pay $30 mil per to Cousins or trade for Alex Smith knowing that any mediocre QB wins this game today. Someone who can actually complete a pass to a WR. This offense is embarrassing
ColoradoBills Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: I'd say Smith is at best a marginal upgrade. Compare Smith numbers his first 4 years with KC to Tyrod's three years here in Buffalo, they are pretty similar. KC's defense has been way more consistent that's why they made the playoffs. It was only this past year in Alex Smith's 5th season in the same offensive system with 3 dynamic weapons (Hill, Kelce, and now Hunt) and a solid offensive line that he had even a good season. I am not saying Tyrod is that good but just that Smith isn't that much better. You say Smith is a marginal upgrade..................many of us say not. You are comparing Smiths FIRST 4 years. It means nothing concerning having smith for 1 year here. I do agree with your bolded statement.
billsfan89 Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Zebrastripes said: Problem is having a rookie qb sit behind tyrod does nothing for his development. Tyrod offers nothing to teach or show the qb of the future. We need to bring in a true pocket passer and let a rookie learn the ropes from him. That's a solid point but in all honesty a good QB coach and offensive system cure that. I think a "QB you can learn from" is a bit of an overstated thing. A lot of the all time greats (Brady, Farve, Montana, ect) have been reported to be terrible mentors by the QB's that succeeded them or were backups for a long time. If a rookie can't beat out Tyrod's quality of play then they shouldn't touch the offense.
Zebrastripes Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I'd say Smith is at best a marginal upgrade. Compare Smith numbers his first 4 years with KC to Tyrod's three years here in Buffalo, they are pretty similar. KC's defense has been way more consistent that's why they made the playoffs. It was only this past year in Alex Smith's 5th season in the same offensive system with 3 dynamic weapons (Hill, Kelce, and now Hunt) and a solid offensive line that he had even a good season. I am not saying Tyrod is that good but just that Smith isn't that much better. It goea beyond the numbers with Smith and Taylor. It's the intangibles such as knowing how to throw the ball away on 2nd and 2 instead of taking a 10 yard sack.
K D Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Andy makes the throw to Deonte Thompson against the Cover 4 on the first play of the final drive for a game tieing TD Haha that's what I said too. I said this looks like where the Bengals had the ball, dang I wish we had a QB as mediocre as Andy Dalton
Doc Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, ColoradoBills said: You say Smith is a marginal upgrade..................many of us say not. You are comparing Smiths FIRST 4 years. It means nothing concerning having smith for 1 year here. I do agree with your bolded statement. Just to clarify, you're saying Alex Smith is a significant upgrade from TT? If so, I agree.
Bangarang Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Andy makes the throw to Deonte Thompson against the Cover 4 on the first play of the final drive for a game tieing TD Or maybe he doesn’t..
xRUSHx Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 3 points for 3 years and out. Goodbye Tyrod Edited January 7, 2018 by xRUSHx 1
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Just to clarify, you're saying Alex Smith is a significant upgrade from TT? If so, I agree. We win this game with Alex Smith and almost any other OC available. 1
Zebrastripes Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: That's a solid point but in all honesty a good QB coach and offensive system cure that. I think a "QB you can learn from" is a bit of an overstated thing. A lot of the all time greats (Brady, Farve, Montana, ect) have been reported to be terrible mentors by the QB's that succeeded them or were backups for a long time. If a rookie can't beat out Tyrod's quality of play then they shouldn't touch the offense. I'm not saying the mentor is going to physically teach a rookie how to play. What I am saying a rookie is going to watch how the mentor plays and pick up on things they do well and not so well. I believe that is one of the best ways to learn the qb position is to just sit and watch someone who knows what they are doing.
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 50 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Keennum, Bradford, Smith do both. vet like Bradford, etc and rookie. Kirk Cousins? Edited January 7, 2018 by MILFHUNTER#518
CommonCents Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 Dear Tyra, The past few years have pretty good. We had some fun times together that I will never forget. Remember that time we took that trip to the playoffs? It was so much fun, I needed that vacation. You seemed excited about going with me but once we got there you had that usual confused look on your face. Now we are checking out early and I'm ok with it. I won't have to see your face again and I need a change. It's not you, it's me. Good luck where ever you end up, no hard feelings.
billsfan89 Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: You say Smith is a marginal upgrade..................many of us say not. You are comparing Smiths FIRST 4 years. It means nothing concerning having smith for 1 year here. I do agree with your bolded statement. I know a lot of people here are high on Alex Smith but I just don't see it. Smith's numbers in KC when he had less offensive weapons are very similar to what Tyrod put up these past 3 seasons. They counted on a great defense and a QB who didn't turn the ball over to win games. The one good offensive year he had was the 5th year in an offensive system under a great offensive coach and with 3 great offensive weapons. Put Smith around this level of offensive talent, learning a new system, and with this OC and I think the results are pretty much the same as Tyrod. Edited January 7, 2018 by billsfan89
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