ganesh Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 58 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I understand. It's funny that we both think the same thing is a huge misconception, for diametrically opposed reasons. I do think they cheat. A lot. I also just think they are great without it. I don't know...The NFL is a game of inches...A few plays go your way could get you to 12-4 and a few balls that don't bounce your way could lead to a 6-10 record...The Patriots with that little cheating can make a big difference in the game. For several years, their OL was allowed to hold opponent DL and get away with it. It meant their WRs could get open or their RBs could find a lane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Andy Reid is a good coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, ganesh said: I don't know...The NFL is a game of inches...A few plays go your way could get you to 12-4 and a few balls that don't bounce your way could lead to a 6-10 record...The Patriots with that little cheating can make a big difference in the game. For several years, their OL was allowed to hold opponent DL and get away with it. It meant their WRs could get open or their RBs could find a lane. That's a different kind of cheating IMO. I have no idea how the Patriots get all the calls. Every time. Including horrible ones. I don't put that in the same category as Spygate or Defategate, which was all them. The flag thing is inexplicable to me. But I don't think it's them cheating in a huge conspiracy with knowing league officials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Sammy Twatkins is an elite WR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 That the offensive coordinators and our WR's are the reason we've been a terrible passing team for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 19 minutes ago, Haslett_Stomp said: Andy Reid is a good coach. And so are Marvin Lewis, John Fox, and mother of all Jeff Fisher!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, 1ManRaid said: I was going to say "The Patriots wouldn't cheat because they don't need to, look at how badly they beat the Colts after they took away Brady's allegedly deflated balls!" 1 hour ago, stevewin said: 1 hour ago, Kelly the Dog said: I like that one. I don't think they need to cheat to win, and yet they still do, which to me makes their cheating worse. Well - I'm saying it is a misconception. I believe fully they were good BECAUSE they cheated, and have benefited from it ever since (aside from likely (IMO) still cheating - Brady learning how to play the position of QB for years by knowing what the defense was before snapping the ball is an advantage unprecedented in sports history) To me, the biggest misconception regarding the Patriots is that they only cheat one way at a time. For instance, the Colts game and deflated balls. Once taken away, they still played great and won big. If Brady knew what the defense was going to do before snapping the ball as well then that's two ways of cheating within the same game and explains the blowout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, RobH063 said: To me, the biggest misconception regarding the Patriots is that they only cheat one way at a time. For instance, the Colts game and deflated balls. Once taken away, they still played great and won big. If Brady knew what the defense was going to do before snapping the ball as well then that's two ways of cheating within the same game and explains the blowout. In order for that to happen, they would have had to been taping pregame practices for ten years after they were caught and imediately getting the defensive calls into Brady's helmet 10-15 seconds before the defense set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Doug Flutie was a winner. Nope, but he was a weiner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: 5 minutes ago, RobH063 said: To me, the biggest misconception regarding the Patriots is that they only cheat one way at a time. For instance, the Colts game and deflated balls. Once taken away, they still played great and won big. If Brady knew what the defense was going to do before snapping the ball as well then that's two ways of cheating within the same game and explains the blowout. In order for that to happen, they would have had to been taping pregame practices for ten years after they were caught and imediately getting the defensive calls into Brady's helmet 10-15 seconds before the defense set up. I was just using that as an example that they could be cheating on multiple levels which help them be successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, RobH063 said: I was just using that as an example that they could be cheating on multiple levels which help them be successful. I agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Biggest NFL misconception by some media and some fans is that anthem protests haven't hurt the league. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Kaepernick is still a good qb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Kaepernick is still a good qb. Good one. That the flaming table tailgating culture is indicative of how Buffalo fans generally act and not isolated instances of extreme intoxication. Edit: Although now that it is a "thing", I assume it'll happen more frequently. Edited January 7, 2018 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Rico said: Biggest NFL misconception by some media and some fans is that anthem protests haven't hurt the league. It warms my cockles to think of all the Bills fans who left the NFL over the protests that didn't get to experience the show bowl or Miami wins or Dalton play or tomorrow's game. Losers. Or, worse, the many ones that took such a stand and screamed "I'm done!" and now are going to watch tomorrow's game because they are such patriots. 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Players run "down hill". The field is flat for cryin' out loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: It warms my cockles to think of all the Bills fans who left the NFL over the protests that didn't get to experience the show bowl or Miami wins or Dalton play or tomorrow's game. Losers. Or, worse, the many ones that took such a stand and screamed "I'm done!" and now are going to watch tomorrow's game because they are such patriots. I like when the ravens fans booed their own team for their garbage protests. More crybaby millionaires like Bennett and Kaepernick please ??♂️??♂️??♂️ Edited January 7, 2018 by Teddy KGB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 That Bills fans are idiots. I think we're the most intelligent football fans in existence. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, PIZ said: That Bills fans are idiots. I think we're the most intelligent football fans in existence. This, unfortunately, could prove just the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 that any of you know what you're talking about 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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