Teddy KGB Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 4:05 PM, Tiberius said: Lol Expand Fixed it for you. I know you’re a CNN fan but don’t use your fake news tactics on me.
Deranged Rhino Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 4:04 PM, Azalin said: The funny thing to me is that (and I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong) nearly everyone you're arguing with actually supports decriminalization, if not outright legalization of marijuana. Also, the stance that Sessions is taking on the issue is very likely to help create the groundswell of popular support that congress will require before they act on addressing the legislation once and for all. The fact is that at this particular point in time, any states that have enacted policy that permits growing, selling, or smoking marijuana have done so in defiance of federal law. Just because we may disagree with the law, does not make us immune to the ramifications if we're caught in violation of that law. Expand Well... unless your last name is Clinton. 1
Azalin Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 4:07 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Well... unless your last name is Clinton. Expand And how do you know it's not, hmmmmm?
Deranged Rhino Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 4:09 PM, Azalin said: And how do you know it's not, hmmmmm? Expand Excellent point! 1
3rdnlng Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 I wonder what is the most dangerous: Driving 150 mph down the street or smoking pot and driving 15 mph on the Freeway?
B-Man Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 Pretty straightforward. FROM KEN WHITE: Lawsplainer: Attorney General Sessions’ Threatened Action on Marijuana.. “Under the Supremacy Clause to the United States Constitution, the states can’t immunize people from federal prosecution — they can make things legal under state law, but can’t make things legal under federal law.” You know who changes federal laws? Congress, not the Executive. .
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 4:06 PM, Teddy KGB said: Fixed it for you. I know you’re a CNN fan but don’t use your fake news tactics on me. Expand Let's get one thing straight, you don't know anything. Ok, I don't watch CNN very much. I like watch All In with Chris Hayes, though. And I read Jennifer Rubin a lot. Still, nice to see you not trying to back up your ridiculous inference that Trump is responsible for the economy. You are a Trumpbot On 1/5/2018 at 4:11 PM, 3rdnlng said: I wonder what is the most dangerous: Driving 150 mph down the street or smoking pot and driving 15 mph on the Freeway? Expand YOU would actually have to think about that! Wow
3rdnlng Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 4:13 PM, Tiberius said: Let's get one thing straight, you don't know anything. Ok, I don't watch CNN very much. I like watch All In with Chris Hayes, though. And I read Jennifer Rubin a lot. Still, nice to see you not trying to back up your ridiculous inference that Trump is responsible for the economy. You are a Trumpbot YOU would actually have to think about that! Wow Expand I was being ironical, you idiot. 1
DC Tom Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 2:50 PM, The_Dude said: ....I’m over 30. The constitution does not grant the federal government the authority to arbitrarily illegalize flowers. Expand No. It grants the federal government the authority to illegalize flowers within the bounds of the legislative process. Which is what happened.
B-Man Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 Back to the thread.................. CORY GARDNER: I’ll block Trump nominees until Sessions stops enforcing federal marijuana law. Which produces this stinging response: 1
3rdnlng Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 4:24 PM, B-Man said: Back to the thread.................. CORY GARDNER: I’ll block Trump nominees until Sessions stops enforcing federal marijuana law. Which produces this stinging response: Expand Gardner is just playing to his constituents, as I'm sure you know.
The_Dude Posted January 5, 2018 Author Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 4:23 PM, DC Tom said: No. It grants the federal government the authority to illegalize flowers within the bounds of the legislative process. Which is what happened. Expand I like you but that doesn't immune you from my pointing out you're wrong. Wrong as hell. Weed was sorta made illegal by congress in the 30's. THE LAW WAS FOUND TO BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND REPEALED. So, in the 70's they passed the controlled substance act which is what brings about the 'schedule' drug policy of today. Marijuana was put on as a schedule 1 narcotic after a commission on the drug recommended to the Nixon administration that the flower ought not be on the list. It was placed on the list anyway and the SCOTUS has yet to intervene meaning the SCOTUS has been consistently failing in its obligations. 1
Paulus Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 4:02 PM, 3rdnlng said: It must have been the 8 summers of recovery that did it. Expand To pretend that the economy didn't do well under Obama is stupid. That said, Obama did inherit a rebounding economy from Bush. We all just tend to attribute the actions of the predecessor to the current politician. And, all current politicians take credit for the good, while blaming the bad on their predecessor. On 1/5/2018 at 4:44 PM, The_Dude said: I like you but that doesn't immune you from my pointing out you're wrong. Wrong as hell. Weed was sorta made illegal by congress in the 30's. THE LAW WAS FOUND TO BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND REPEALED. So, in the 70's they passed the controlled substance act which is what brings about the 'schedule' drug policy of today. Marijuana was put on as a schedule 1 narcotic after a commission on the drug recommended to the Nixon administration that the flower ought not be on the list. It was placed on the list anyway and the SCOTUS has yet to intervene meaning the SCOTUS has been consistently failing in its obligations. Expand So has the self-interested commission been failing. Inherently, they have a conflict of interest in the scheduling process. The more drugs they schedule the more jobs, money and control they create for themselves.
Deranged Rhino Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 4:45 PM, Paulus said: To pretend that the economy didn't do well under Obama is stupid. That said, Obama did inherit a rebounding economy from Bush. Expand Umm... what?
The_Dude Posted January 5, 2018 Author Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 4:45 PM, Paulus said: To pretend that the economy didn't do well under Obama is stupid. That said, Obama did inherit a rebounding economy from Bush. We all just tend to attribute the actions of the predecessor to the current politician. And, all current politicians take credit for the good, while blaming the bad on their predecessor. So has the self-interested commission been failing. Inherently, they have a conflict of interest in the scheduling process. The more drugs they schedule the more jobs, money and control they create for themselves. Expand That's true. There's literally no science to back up its classification as a schedule 1 narcotic and our government is arresting millions of non violent people. HOW CAN THERE BE A CRIME WITH NO VICTIM? On 1/5/2018 at 4:51 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Umm... what? Expand Yeah, I dunno. He lost me there too. On 1/5/2018 at 3:45 PM, Koko78 said: The Constitution grants the federal government the authority to regulate commerce between the states. So yes, it does have the authority to arbitrarily make flowers illegal. Expand No. You've no point. You're talking about trade, but what about gardening?
/dev/null Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 4:13 PM, B-Man said: You know who changes federal laws? Congress, not the Executive. . Expand 1
Koko78 Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) On 1/5/2018 at 4:51 PM, The_Dude said: No. You've no point. You're talking about trade, but what about gardening? Expand Your complete lack of understanding of how the US Constitution works does not invalidate any points made which which you disagree. Edited January 5, 2018 by Koko78
The_Dude Posted January 5, 2018 Author Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 3:43 PM, 3rdnlng said: You believe that laws you don't like should be struck down by the courts rather than repealed. You also are willing to let "scientists" direct your belief/non-belief in GW. You are against tax cuts and won 't even discuss energy independence. The most damning evidence though is that you are in bed with Tiberius. Expand I'm quite good at talking for myself. I believe UNCONSTITUTIONAL laws should be struck down. Do ya see how the narrative changes when I talk for myself as opposed to what you state my beliefs are? I'm willing to listen to experts on global warming and accept their peer reviewed findings -- yup. I've never been against tax cuts and never will be if the nation can afford them. I'm conservative which means I believe in things like avoiding debt. I hate debt. I will not support legislation that adds to the debt. Do ya see the difference? You say I hate tax cuts -- not true. I hate debt and dodgy Don's tax bill will increase the debt. As far as energy goes I believe fossil fuels are the past and because climate change is real we need to invest in new technology. Also, 'energy independence,' lol. You know oil is finite, right? Have we hit 'peak oil?' I don't know the report is classified. But I know we wont run out of wind or sunlight for a long time. On 1/5/2018 at 4:56 PM, Koko78 said: Your complete lack of understanding of how the US Constitution works does not invalidate any points made which which you disagree. Expand You argued that the constitution gives the government the right to illegalize gardening. I disagree. Yes.
Paulus Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 4:51 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Umm... what? Expand 2009 was a great year for recovery, IMO. To me that is when the economy began to correct itself. Markets jumped, housing prices began to rebound, and more jobs began to appear.
Koko78 Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 4:58 PM, The_Dude said: You argued that the constitution gives the government the right to illegalize gardening. I disagree. Yes. Expand Interesting that you keep changing wording when called out on your bull ****.
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