boyst Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, RuntheDamnBall said: I don't see what at all this has to do with a public education mandate to give opportunities to all students. This shouldn't really be about rewards. Funding isn't a reward or a punishment. You make the environment safe and one that promotes good learning habits. Full stop. Why doesn't the heat work? Is there a real reason? Is it a systemic issue? Is the school incapable of maintenance to fix it? Was it insufficiently fixed and neglected? Are they spending money at the school to field a sports team instead of fix the heat? Have they spent money on field trips or fancy new instruments or technology instead of the basics? Sorry, not sorry one iota until the real information comes out instead of a puff piece. I still applaud Maybin for his efforts.
ThunderGun Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: The problem with the education system isn't that we spend too much on it. It's that we spend a lot of money on prison! Yep! If the prison system didn't waste money you could use that to keep pumping money to Baltimore! It couldn't be both? Most issues, especially complex ones, aren't so "black and white". It would be my guess that there is both underfunding AND a misappropriation of funds. There is obviously no easy answer or solution to the mess the USA has created out of its educational systems, at all levels. The prison system is a huge problem, and obviously not to blame directly for the currents status of many of our nation's schools. I think people are just approaching it with the common sense approach of - if we spent more laying a better foundation, then we can spend less on incarceration. 1
OrtonHearsaWho Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 This post is a great example of why the internet is nauseating. Not the OP...what it has become. How any of you mouth breathers can turn a nice story into "DERRRR I DON'T CARE" or "DERRRRR HE SHOULD DO MORE OR SHUT UP" is beyond disheartening. 2 1 1
MJS Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 2 hours ago, HT02 said: We're supposed to be impressed that he's become a SJW? Please... for the record Baltimore spends the second highest amount per student for any school district in the country. http://www.newsweek.com/do-baltimore-schools-need-more-money-329085. Want to be a real "hero" and help kids? Take on the NEA and AFT. Dollars per student is a useless metric in measuring success of schools. Budgets usually follow age demographics, meaning you'll pay a higher percentage of your budget to schools if you have a younger population, and a higher percentage of budget to healthcare if you have an older population. There are states have have very young populations and their per student spending looks low on the surface just because they have a ton of kids, but their percentage of budget is usually quite high for education.t It's just what the population demographics demand. Per pupil spending usually doesn't correlate to higher or lower test scores, or graduation rates, etc. 1
boyst Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, OrtonHearsaWho said: This post is a great example of why the internet is nauseating. Not the OP...what it has become. How any of you mouth breathers can turn a nice story into "DERRRR I DON'T CARE" or "DERRRRR HE SHOULD DO MORE OR SHUT UP" is beyond disheartening. #laugh
OrtonHearsaWho Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Boyst62 said: #laugh Yet another great contribution. 2
boyst Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, MJS said: Crap. Meant to quote the prison guy. Thunder gun It could be. But, in my case a school in our very well to do community in Ohio had heating issues. They were millions of dollars to fix and still not fixed. It was designed in the 60's to be heated via technology that was already antiquated and then used in the 70s. Where lights in the ceiling would heat rooms, essentially and certain methods were used to treat the entire heating system. Kids often wore coats in these rooms. There were no heating vents or options in these rooms. Maybe this is similar. Again, all we know is this little fluff piece. But, without knowing the actual temperature and details and so much more we have all these white knights here exposing their moral high ground. 2 minutes ago, OrtonHearsaWho said: Yet another great contribution. I have made several posts in this thread. Feel free to respond to one. Edited January 4, 2018 by Boyst62
OrtonHearsaWho Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: It could be. But, in my case a school in our very well to do community in Ohio had heating issues. They were millions of dollars to fix and still not fixed. It was designed in the 60's to be heated via technology that was already antiquated and then used in the 70s. Where lights in the ceiling would heat rooms, essentially and certain methods were used to treat the entire heating system. Kids often wore coats in these rooms. There were no heating vents or options in these rooms. Maybe this is similar. Again, all we know is this little fluff piece. But, without knowing the actual temperature and details and so much more we have all these white knights here exposing their moral high ground. I have made several posts in this thread. Feel free to respond to one. I already did when I mentioned mouth breathers.
ghostwriter Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 Maybe he can show them how to roll doobies and make water paintings.
boyst Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, OrtonHearsaWho said: I already did when I mentioned mouth breathers. And this is why your side never gets anywhere. Thanks for not playing. 1
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 "All we have is this little puff piece." Baltimore closes public schools after students sat in cold classrooms 40 degrees per Maybin's first-aid kit thermometer. From the article: Quote Here's what the school system says happened Wednesday: -- Outdoor temperatures were typical of winter (single digits in the morning; upper 20s and lower 30s later). That continued a two-week run of chilly air, putting an extra strain on the schools' heating systems, Baltimore City Public Schools CEO Sonja Santelises said in a Facebook Live video. -- Heating issues emerged as parts of boilers broke and pipes burst in some schools, she said, adding that drafts from leaky windows and generally "old conditions of our buildings" contributed. -- About 60 schools -- about one-third of the school system -- reported heating issues during the school day. Maintenance teams resolved many of the issues during the day, Santelises said. "Nobody in this city, including me, wants folks sitting around in coats and mittens all day," Santelises said. But for a time, some students took to wearing extra layers Wednesday. Took me literally 2 minutes to find this info. 1
OrtonHearsaWho Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Boyst62 said: And this is why your side never gets anywhere. Thanks for not playing. I've read enough of your garbage in other threads to not waste too much time. "The Confederate States of America" really should be all that's needed for me or anyone else on here to know how seriously to take you.
boyst Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, RuntheDamnBall said: "All we have is this little puff piece." Baltimore closes public schools after students sat in cold classrooms 40 degrees per Maybin's first-aid kit thermometer. From the article: Took me literally 2 minutes to find this info. So, the school system should have cancelled school. They took too long to be responsible. Plus, 40°, I'd like proof of that and not from someone who said they were 260 lbs. Of course, then you get bemoaning that parents had to miss work and all that to care for their kids. This is not hard people. 7 minutes ago, OrtonHearsaWho said: I've read enough of your garbage in other threads to not waste too much time. "The Confederate States of America" really should be all that's needed for me or anyone else on here to know how seriously to take you. I do it for folks like you who enjoy the humor of life. Good thing about cold weather, though. It snows a lot. Snowflakes everywhere. Edited January 4, 2018 by Boyst62
BeginnersMind Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 33 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: The inner cities make their choices. They can live with them. Not one bit of love loss. This is on Baltimore to fix. The pity party, oh boo hoo... Screw'm. Good for Maybin to be happy or something but I don't care what he's doing so long as he is, as I said, happy. Who is rod Watson? Who are you? Who cares? Baltimore is responsible for Baltimore. Those that don't like it should leave with those who realize it's a terrible place. They need a hashtag for this movement. #? You could be a better person starting right now.
Bad Things Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Get your panties out your wad... Nice reaction from a former teacher. Jeez.
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: So, the school system should have cancelled school. They took too long to be responsible. Plus, 40°, I'd like proof of that and not from someone who said they were 260 lbs. Of course, then you get bemoaning that parents had to miss work and all that to care for their kids. It's got to be great going thru life having all the answers. Myriad reasons not to cancel school and I am sure there are school- and district-level confrontations about this all the time. Maybe they've put in requests for funding or maintenance that have not been honored. Sure, let's see that reported out. But I'm inclined to listen to them more than I am someone who couldn't even be bothered to find an article about the situation and wants to reduce it to his worldview.
Irv Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 Maybin should sack the head of the Administrators. It might take 3 or 4 years but he might get it done.
Bad Things Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Badthingsman said: Maybin should sack the head of the Administrators. It might take 3 or 4 years but he might get it done. Nice original Username, there Badthingsman. 1
HT02 Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 35 minutes ago, MJS said: Dollars per student is a useless metric in measuring success of schools. Budgets usually follow age demographics, meaning you'll pay a higher percentage of your budget to schools if you have a younger population, and a higher percentage of budget to healthcare if you have an older population. There are states have have very young populations and their per student spending looks low on the surface just because they have a ton of kids, but their percentage of budget is usually quite high for education.t It's just what the population demographics demand. Per pupil spending usually doesn't correlate to higher or lower test scores, or graduation rates, etc. Dollars per student is a great measure. Age of the population has nothing to do with how much money the schools get (and waste) 42 minutes ago, OrtonHearsaWho said: Wow. You sound like loads of fun. I genuinely wish I could swear in this forum. Yes the truth is often less fun than stories about not enough spending on education
Irv Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Bad Things said: Nice original Username, there Badthingsman. I just noticed that and feel shame and guilt. I came over from BBMB with that name. It was my first name then I got banned on BBMB with new names several times thereafter: Billsrulz, Coach Cleats, Thurmans Helmet..... I don't think there is an index to show new users, who has what name. I will change my name but don't know who the mods are or how to do that. You were here first and I'm concerned that you are actually Bruce Smith and I'm cold and frightened. Bad things man. Bad things. Edited January 4, 2018 by Badthingsman 1
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