GoBills808 Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 4:34 PM, klos63 said: How is McVay not the correct choice? Expand Because it was a much harder job getting the 2017 Bills to 9-7 and a wildcard in the AFCE than the 2017 Rams to 11-5 in the NFCW.
berg1029 Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 He certainly deserves to at least be in the conversation. Realistically though, McVay is going to win it (and deservedly so)
BillsFan130 Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 4:45 PM, Doc said: It should be McD. He did more with less. Expand Problem for Mcd is he took a 7 win team to a 9 win team. Which is good, but not great. Mcvay took a 4 win team to what, a 11 win team? Probably 12 if he doesn't rest his starters. Whoever wins coach of the year generally has one of the biggest turnarounds in terms of wins and losses. And 7 to 9 wins won't be enough. And rightfully so in my opinion as Mcvay has done wonders with that turnaround
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 win sunday and he should definitely be up for consideration.
Stank_Nasty Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 4:53 PM, billsfan11 said: Problem for Mcd is he took a 7 win team to a 9 win team. Which is good, but not great. Mcvay took a 4 win team to what, a 11 win team? Probably 12 if he doesn't rest his starters. Whoever wins coach of the year generally has one of the biggest turnarounds in terms of wins and losses. And 7 to 9 wins won't be enough. And rightfully so in my opinion as Mcvay has done wonders with that turnaround Expand I would agree if we didn't let all our most talented players walk or trade them. there was no tanking talk for the rams this year. the talent was evident. 1 1
JMF2006 Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 4:53 PM, billsfan11 said: Problem for Mcd is he took a 7 win team to a 9 win team. Which is good, but not great. Mcvay took a 4 win team to what, a 11 win team? Probably 12 if he doesn't rest his starters. Whoever wins coach of the year generally has one of the biggest turnarounds in terms of wins and losses. And 7 to 9 wins won't be enough. And rightfully so in my opinion as Mcvay has done wonders with that turnaround Expand But he also did it with a stripped down roster in a year the Bills were thought to be tanking it.
BillsFan130 Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 4:55 PM, JMF2006 said: But he also did it with a stripped down roster in a year the Bills were thought to be tanking it. Expand It won't matter though. He is not going to win it. Mcvay, Pederson, and probably Zimmer will all be ahead of him in my opinion On 1/3/2018 at 4:55 PM, Stank_Nasty said: I would agree if we didn't let all our most talented players walk or trade them. there was no tanking talk for the rams this year. the talent was evident. Expand Rams had 4 wins last year. Mcvay completely changed their team. He was even calling plays for Goff at the line
Stank_Nasty Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 4:57 PM, billsfan11 said: It won't matter though. He is not going to win it. Mcvay, Pederson, and probably Zimmer will all be ahead of him in my opinion Expand I don't disagree, but I think there is a strong argument to be made that nobody did more with less.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 3, 2018 Author Posted January 3, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 4:57 PM, billsfan11 said: It won't matter though. He is not going to win it. Mcvay, Pederson, and probably Zimmer will all be ahead of him in my opinion Expand What about Marrone?
boyst Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 i don't know who she is but swipe right on her! 1
klos63 Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 4:55 PM, Stank_Nasty said: I would agree if we didn't let all our most talented players walk or trade them. there was no tanking talk for the rams this year. the talent was evident. Expand i thought it was evident too, but I just checked some preseason predictions and most had the Rams winning 4 games. I usually don't pay attention to prognosticators but it didn't seem evident to many and he was a very young rookie coach, I think the expectations for McVay were low, not as much as talent on the team.
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 4:16 PM, Shotgunner said: There is an argument for McD in the "doing more with less" perspective. The Rams have all the pieces. They were supposed to be good. Expand Not really. Goff was viewed as a colossal bust going into this season. Nobody thought the Rams offense would be as good as they have been even with the upgrades because it's all about the QB position. I still think it is hard to quantify if we have really done more with less. Certainly we have less. But have we done more than the Rams? Rams were dominant this year and look like a team that will be in the mix for years to come.
JMF2006 Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 4:57 PM, billsfan11 said: It won't matter though. He is not going to win it. Mcvay, Pederson, and probably Zimmer will all be ahead of him in my opinion Expand I know,just hoping for the guy. He is like the team an underdog. I loved the hire and knew he could fix this mess. Think of all the coaches that failed during the drought.
Stank_Nasty Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 4:59 PM, klos63 said: i thought it was evident too, but I just checked some preseason predictions and most had the Rams winning 4 games. I usually don't pay attention to prognosticators but it didn't seem evident to many and he was a very young rookie coach, I think the expectations for McVay were low, not as much as talent on the team. Expand I personally think that hinged on the fact that the previous staff was awful and made goff out to be a disaster. that obviously wasn't the case.
BillsFan130 Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 4:59 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: What about Marrone? Expand Ya that’s another option as well
klos63 Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 5:01 PM, Stank_Nasty said: I personally think that hinged on the fact that the previous staff was awful and made goff out to be a disaster. that obviously wasn't the case. Expand Wasn't Fischer against drafting Goff? I seem to remember that.
Stank_Nasty Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 5:02 PM, klos63 said: Wasn't Fischer against drafting Goff? I seem to remember that. Expand great judge of talent... deemed goff not fit for the position and keenum was a disaster there too. now look how solid he's been with a good staff. fischer and his crew were AWFUL.
BillsFan130 Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 5:00 PM, JMF2006 said: I know,just hoping for the guy. He is like the team an underdog. I loved the hire and knew he could fix this mess. Think of all the coaches that failed during the drought. Expand For sure. He’s done a nice job and not taking anything away from him. Was Just saying there will probably be 3 to 4 coaches ahead of him in terms of coach of the year
klos63 Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 5:04 PM, Stank_Nasty said: great judge of talent... deemed goff not fit for the position and keenum was a disaster there too. now look how solid he's been with a good staff. fischer and his crew were AWFUL. Expand If it wasn't for the forward lateral, his record would be worse, losing a home playoff game to rob johnson.
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