SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 In the words of Yoda's goofy cousin Passing yards does not a winner make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said: What are you implying? A problem with my math? I was actually giving Tyrod a little leeway on the passing yards because of his ability to also produce offense running the ball. So for him, a season of 3400 passing yards, 20 TDs, and 4 INTs should be the standard for him. I just used Alex Smith to demonstrate that it is possible because they both have the same INT%. PASSING YARDS DONT MEAN ANYTHING Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, John from Hemet said: PASSING YARDS DONT MEAN ANYTHING Christ I just said that (sort of) 6 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: In the words of Yoda's goofy cousin Passing yards does not a winner make Once upon a time ShadyBillsFan said I'd like to see Taylor pass for 300 yards a game. Then it became the yardstick for success here. SMH Ahh the internet. Edited January 5, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, John from Hemet said: PASSING YARDS DONT MEAN ANYTHING Christ They don’t matter when you need some of them to beat the Panthers, Bengals or Pats huh ? The cot narrative about yards don’t matter take is pretty funny. If one wanted to get closer to the end zone and not be ranked at the bottom off offensive rankings then yards would matter. -Dennison - OL - Wr’s - Yards all are enemies of the cot ??♂️?? Edited January 5, 2018 by Teddy KGB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoandfourteen Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, John from Hemet said: PASSING YARDS DONT MEAN ANYTHING Christ You are literally one small step away from saying that scoring points doesn't mean anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: They don’t matter when you need some of them to beat the Panthers, Bengals or Pats huh ? The cot narrative about yards don’t matter take is pretty funny. If one wanted to get closer to the end zone and not be ranked at the bottom off offensive rankings then yards would matter. -Dennison - OL - Wr’s - Yards all are enemies of the cot ??♂️?? Your facination with "COT" is really laughable.....you do realize that you have become more of a cult follower then fans that support Tyrod Taylor couldnt begin to go to. I can give you a direct correlation to passing yards and losing can you do that with passing yards and winning? - its scheme based - normally QBs putting up huge passing yards are doing because they have to. The team has fallen behind and had to give up on the run. - Huge passing numbers except for for the top QBs are often times in losing efforts This might be a little to advanced for you. 1 minute ago, twoandfourteen said: You are literally one small step away from saying that scoring points doesn't mean anything. Actually no....because scoring points and 3rd down efficiency are literally the only things that do matter. but hey...carry on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, John from Hemet said: Your facination with "COT" is really laughable.....you do realize that you have become more of a cult follower then fans that support Tyrod Taylor couldnt begin to go to. You make a good point. What do you think of the Nate Haters? (The ones that think there is a Peterman Cult) Justified or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoandfourteen Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, John from Hemet said: Your facination with "COT" is really laughable.....you do realize that you have become more of a cult follower then fans that support Tyrod Taylor couldnt begin to go to. I can give you a direct correlation to passing yards and losing can you do that with passing yards and winning? - its scheme based - normally QBs putting up huge passing yards are doing because they have to. The team has fallen behind and had to give up on the run. - Huge passing numbers except for for the top QBs are often times in losing efforts This might be a little to advanced for you. Actually no....because scoring points and 3rd down efficiency are literally the only things that do matter. but hey...carry on. 1. Since 2007, there have been 1,188 games where a QB has thrown for 300+ yards. The QB who threw for 300+ has won that game 644 times. The QB who threw for 300+ has lost that game 544 times. 2. ...and just how do teams go about accomplishing those two tasks? My guess is by moving the ball up and down the field. If only there were a statistic that measured such a thing..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 12 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: You make a good point. What do you think of the Nate Haters? (The ones that think there is a Peterman Cult) Justified or not? I think there is simply not enough information on Peterman for people to be one way or the other at this point. it is really unfair to judge a 5th round rookie. My gut says that Peterman is better then people think......but gut also tells us to hedge our bets with another talented qb to compete with him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Lets look at the fact the our defense not offense generally closes the door with an interception late in the game. It seems like almost every close game we win the other team has the ball with a chance because we cannot score in the second half of a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said: 1. Since 2007, there have been 1,188 games where a QB has thrown for 300+ yards. The QB who threw for 300+ has won that game 644 times. The QB who threw for 300+ has lost that game 544 times. 2. ...and just how do teams go about accomplishing those two tasks? My guess is by moving the ball up and down the field. If only there were a statistic that measured such a thing..... And to continue that further....why do you think they are moving up and down the field? Because defensively when you get a lead you allow underneath stuff and tackle and do not allow yourself to be be beat by the big play. Hence More passing yards as that is what the D gives with a lead But less scoring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 38 minutes ago, John from Hemet said: Your facination with "COT" is really laughable.....you do realize that you have become more of a cult follower then fans that support Tyrod Taylor couldnt begin to go to. I can give you a direct correlation to passing yards and losing can you do that with passing yards and winning? - its scheme based - normally QBs putting up huge passing yards are doing because they have to. The team has fallen behind and had to give up on the run. - Huge passing numbers except for for the top QBs are often times in losing efforts This might be a little to advanced for you. Actually no....because scoring points and 3rd down efficiency are literally the only things that do matter. but hey...carry on. Ok, let’s bury our heads in the sand and pretend being 25th in tds and Yards isn’t relevant ? Passing yards matter ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said: Ok, let’s bury our heads in the sand and pretend being 25th in tds and Yards isn’t relevant ? Passing yards matter ! The TDs are relevent The passing yards is not Oh yeah.....just wanted to point this out. We are not the Browns we actually are in the playoffs....which means that the team did do some things right in these games and we do NOT have a top 10 defense backing us up yet Edited January 5, 2018 by John from Hemet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said: Ok, let’s bury our heads in the sand and pretend being 25th in tds and Yards isn’t relevant ? Passing yards matter ! An effective passing game matters. Points on the board is the goal. Yes, it's nice to see, but its not the end all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoandfourteen Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, John from Hemet said: And to continue that further....why do you think they are moving up and down the field? Because defensively when you get a lead you allow underneath stuff and tackle and do not allow yourself to be be beat by the big play. Hence More passing yards as that is what the D gives with a lead But less scoring Peyton Manning's 3rd down efficiency is definitely what is going to put him in the Hall of Fame. Tom Brady must have lost a TON of games to pass for all those yards over the course of his career, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, John from Hemet said: The TDs are relevent The passing yards is not Oh yeah.....just wanted to point this out. We are not the Browns we actually are in the playoffs....which means that the team did do some things right in these games and we do NOT have a top 10 defense backing us up yet More yards = more points. You accumulate yards as you move towards the end zone. Our qb isn’t good at either. Yes we are 9-7 but that doesn’t give a free pass to the poor play of the qb. Let’s see where we stand post jags game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said: Peyton Manning's 3rd down efficiency is definitely what is going to put him in the Hall of Fame. Tom Brady must have lost a TON of games to pass for all those yards over the course of his career, too. Now go back and read again where i talk about the "few select qbs" Dont worry....you will get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) At this point most of us want to see a reliable passing game and some razzle dazzle in the form of a franchise QB with a big arm Edited January 5, 2018 by ddaryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: More yards = more points. You accumulate yards as you move towards the end zone. Our qb isn’t good at either. Yes we are 9-7 but that doesn’t give a free pass to the poor play of the qb. Let’s see where we stand post jags game. More yards do NOT mean more points....points can come from other aspects of the team. Points (and winning) come from teams with balanced offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoandfourteen Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, John from Hemet said: Now go back and read again where i talk about the "few select qbs" Dont worry....you will get it Ever stop to consider how those guys got to be included among those "few select QBs".... Or do passing yards only matter for Brady, Manning, Brees, and Rogers? 13 minutes ago, John from Hemet said: More yards do NOT mean more points....points can come from other aspects of the team. Points (and winning) come from teams with balanced offense. 1. Rian Lindell, Dan Carpernter, and Stephen Hauschka say whats up. 2. 1995 called. It wants it's hot football take back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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