3rdnlng Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 32 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You seriously don't think he is a racist? What more evidence do you need? Saying that immigrants from countries that are mostly black are bad, but from lilly white Norway are good, is classic racism. Mexicans are rapists, scapegoating immigrants as criminals, declaring that their are good people among the Nazis that murdered someone, I mean what more do you want?
3rdnlng Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Lindsay Graham confirmed he said it and Graham's been Trump's biggest cheerleader these last few months. I think Congress members have come to a place where they need they feel to educate the president because Graham apparently tried to educate Trump on immigration yesterday. Another example is at that televised meeting where Feinstein asked if he'd be open to a DACA stand alone bill and Trump basically said yes. That they'd do DACA first and then move on to comprehensive immigration reform. McCarthy (GOP majority leader) jumped in to explain to the president why that was a horrible deal for them. Trump just looked confused. When Trump does his homework on something he seems to make the right decisions (Paris Climate Accords, moving US Embassy to Jerusalem, slashing unnecessary regulations, etc.). When he doesn't you get dumb comments like he made yesterday that the media is ready to pounce on. As Trump explained later he was open to a DACA deal if it included the other provisions he wanted. He'd be crazy to give the dems a DACA deal without getting what he wants in a trade-off. In order to allow the dreamers permanent residency (not citizenship) he needs to get the following: End of chain immigration. End of lottery. Authorization and funding for a wall/fence and other border security.
LeviF Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 19 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Lindsay Graham confirmed he said it and Graham's been Trump's biggest cheerleader these last few months. Lindsey Graham switches around so much I'm surprised his head is still attached. On a related note, in a sane society Lindsay Graham would have been dragged into the public square with a black hood over his head long ago. I mean seriously, you trust a guy who looks like this?
Paulus Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 39 minutes ago, Justice said: Trump is embarrassing. No doubt about that. I didn’t vote for him and I didn’t vote for Hillary. I don’t like either one. Having said that I can only assume being a Trump supporter is much like being a dog that has an owner that spreads peanut butter on his nutsack. I vote for entertainment, chaos, and excitement in my lifetime. Free the prisoners of CA! Increase taxes until peoples' eyes explode! War with whatever! That said, Trump 2020, Newsom 2024. If we don't see the apocalypse between those two, I might not see it in my lifetime. Boring!!!
Cugalabanza Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 David Duke, Richard Spencer and Daily Stormer all praised Trump's shithole remarks. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: Lindsay Graham confirmed he said it and Graham's been Trump's biggest cheerleader these last few months. I think Congress members have come to a place where they need they feel to educate the president because Graham apparently tried to educate Trump on immigration yesterday. Another example is at that televised meeting where Feinstein asked if he'd be open to a DACA stand alone bill and Trump basically said yes. That they'd do DACA first and then move on to comprehensive immigration reform. McCarthy (GOP majority leader) jumped in to explain to the president why that was a horrible deal for them. Trump just looked confused. When Trump does his homework on something he seems to make the right decisions (Paris Climate Accords, moving US Embassy to Jerusalem, slashing unnecessary regulations, etc.). When he doesn't you get dumb comments like he made yesterday that the media is ready to pounce on. I doubt he said it, but even if he did it's not the four alarm media emergency that it's being made out to be. It's not the first, nor last time, a sitting president has used foul language to describe other nationalities. Which is why I say it's a distraction. There are a lot of stories that need distracting right now. Some of these people are literally fighting to keep their asses out of the clink at this very moment.
/dev/null Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, Cugalabanza said: David Duke, Richard Spencer and Daily Stormer all praised Trump's shithole remarks. Raoul Castro sent Obama gifts of Cuban cigars and rum
TakeYouToTasker Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 19 minutes ago, Cugalabanza said: David Duke, Richard Spencer and Daily Stormer all praised Trump's shithole remarks. Hitler advocated for universal healthcare.
Paulus Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Yes, so what? That makes them bad people? Cowardly people, if they have the means to try and effectuate positive change in Haiti by more than just bitching and dont.
/dev/null Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Hitler advocated for universal healthcare. And gun control
Koko78 Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 6 hours ago, GG said: With one little word, trump managed to wipe out any semblance of goodwill he's built up over the last couple of months. He wiped out goodwill with whom? The #resistance? The #nevertrump crowd? The #notmypresident snowflakes? The people in the shithole countries? Anyone who actually matters?
GG Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, Koko78 said: He wiped out goodwill with whom? The #resistance? The #nevertrump crowd? The #notmypresident snowflakes? The people in the shithole countries? Anyone who actually matters? The people who were in the room with him looking to strike a deal.
3rdnlng Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 37 minutes ago, GG said: The people who were in the room with him looking to strike a deal. Seriously, do you really think that because Trump called another country a shithole that a legislator would change his intended vote? I'm more inclined to think that Trump called the proposed deal a shithole of a deal because he was pissed that they would come to him with that crap.
GG Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Seriously, do you really think that because Trump called another country a shithole that a legislator would change his intended vote? I'm more inclined to think that Trump called the proposed deal a shithole of a deal because he was pissed that they would come to him with that crap. oh I don't know, perhaps the possibility of the first truly bipartisan legislation to be passed in his term?
Koko78 Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 21 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Seriously, do you really think that because Trump called another country a shithole that a legislator would change his intended vote? I'm more inclined to think that Trump called the proposed deal a shithole of a deal because he was pissed that they would come to him with that crap. He did say it in private in an unknown context. I know I'd certainly change my vote based on that, were I a legislator. This ranks right up with TWO scoops of ice cream that the evil racist misogynistic Nazi rat bastard demanded. #resist 1
Paulus Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 3 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Hitler advocated for universal healthcare. He liked dogs, too.
Paulus Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 3 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: Seriously, do you really think that because Trump called another country a shithole that a legislator would change his intended vote? I'm more inclined to think that Trump called the proposed deal a shithole of a deal because he was pissed that they would come to him with that crap. Sounds about right, when you consider all of his comments being taken out of context by the lying media and the politicians they worship.
DC Tom Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 18 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: Seriously, do you really think that because Trump called another country a shithole that a legislator would change his intended vote? I'm more inclined to think that Trump called the proposed deal a shithole of a deal because he was pissed that they would come to him with that crap. The first time the 2007 bailout was up for vote in the House, it failed because Pelosi didn't give the Republicans any credit, so they voted against it en masse. So...yes. 19 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Hitler advocated for universal healthcare. And full employment. And silencing the politically incorrect. 1
3rdnlng Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, DC Tom said: The first time the 2007 bailout was up for vote in the House, it failed because Pelosi didn't give the Republicans any credit, so they voted against it en masse. So...yes. Doesn't seem like an apropos analogy but let me tell you that I give your response a serious, heartfelt and well thought out........................whatever.
Deranged Rhino Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 **** house-gate? Not as catchy. I get why Durbin changed it.
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