Should the NFL start firing referees who make bad calls?

[Klaista2k]

There's no excuse for how bad some of these calls are getting in the NFL.

 

Is it time for the NFL to start firing refs who make these egregiously bad calls? 

 

I think it should go to an independent panel for review, and if its determined the the call is wrong the referee should be terminated.

 

I see this as the only solution to fixing this problem with the corrupt officiating.  

 

 

Edited December 26, 2017 by Klaista2k

[RyanC883]

the real issue is with the instant replay official in NY this year.  He should be gone.  

[JMF2006]

In our game the on field officials got it right.

 

The all TD's are reviewed brigade got the Bills.

[Klaista2k]

1 minute ago, RyanC883 said:

the real issue is with the instant replay official in NY this year.  He should be gone.  

 

I think whoever gets it wrong should be fired.  Whether the call comes from the on the field ref or the official in NY. There's no excuses for this and it's ruining the game. 

[clayboy54]

Just think how much fun it would be if they just let the players torture them at midfield.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...Blue Wall of Silence...protect thy own.....just leave the damn calls to the on field officiating crew aided by what THEY see in the instant replay hood.....will they make mistakes?...of course.....we're dealing with the human element which technology will never replace....I've been a follower since 1962 and the product is FAR worse today versus the old days....

[Kmart128]

 Fine them like they do the players. And if they reach 5 fines then fire them.

[Klaista2k]

12 minutes ago, Kmart128 said:

 Fine them like they do the players. And if they reach 5 fines then fire them.

 

That's not enough. 

 

What if that Benjamin call happened in the playoffs and ended up costing us the game?

 

They need to get serious and start firing these guys. I see it as the only solution. 

Edited December 26, 2017 by Klaista2k

[Kmart128]

6 minutes ago, Klaista2k said:

 

That's not enough. 

 

What if that Benjamin call happened in the playoffs and ended up costing us the game?

 

They need to get serious and start firing these guys. I see it as the only solution. 

 

Well NFL Refs are paid 173,000... If they fine them 30,000 per call then I'm sure they will double think the call they make.

[NoSaint]

9 minutes ago, Klaista2k said:

 

That's not enough. 

 

What if that Benjamin call happened in the playoffs and ended up costing us the game?

 

They need to get serious and start firing these guys. I see it as the only solution. 

 

 

What happens if you find you’ve fired the guys that are legitimately the best options and are replacing them with lesser skilled referees?

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

25 minutes ago, Kmart128 said:

 Fine them like they do the players. And if they reach 5 fines then fire them.

 

...they have a SIGNIFICANT (COUGH) hand slapping system in place whereby you eff up too many times and your crew gets demoted to a lesser game.....seems to be working, right??.........

[Rick B]

Rather than just firing the ref, I think a system like what's used in many work places. A graduated system starting with reprimands and ending with terminations.

[Klaista2k]

56 minutes ago, Kmart128 said:

 Fine them like they do the players. And if they reach 5 fines then fire them.

Perhaps something like this would work.... In the regular season fine them significantly and if they reach 3 fines within a certain period of time fire them. If they have 1 wrong call in the playoffs they should be gone. I think that would be a pretty fair system. 

Edited December 27, 2017 by Klaista2k

[Klaista2k]

30 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

 

 

What happens if you find you’ve fired the guys that are legitimately the best options and are replacing them with lesser skilled referees?

I've revised my idea on how I think the NFL should handle it.

 

In the regular season refs should be fined for wrong calls (If they reach 3 fines in X amount of time then they should be gone)

 

In the playoffs I think it should be zero tolerance type of policy. 1 wrong call and you are done. 

Just now, BUFFALOKIE said:

"Wrong" according to who? 

Should be reviewed by an independent panel.

[NoSaint]

2 minutes ago, Klaista2k said:

I've revised my idea on how I think the NFL should handle it.

 

In the regular season refs should be fined for wrong calls (If they reach 3 fines in X amount of time then they should be gone)

 

In the playoffs I think it should be zero tolerance type of policy. 1 wrong call and you are done. 

Should be reviewed by an independent panel.

 

How big of a call does it have to be in your system?

 

also, my point still stands. What if generally we already have the right guys and the quality goes down? 

Edited December 27, 2017 by NoSaint

[BUFFALOKIE]

I agree with your sentiment and intent, but who decides right or wrong? There is the question.

[Klaista2k]

2 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

 

How big of a call does it have to be in your system?

 

also, my point still stands. What if generally we already have the right guys and the quality goes down? 

Honestly can the quality get any worse?

 

Multiple angles showed that Benjamin was CLEARLY IN and it should've been a touchdown and they overturned it.

 

 

2 minutes ago, BUFFALOKIE said:

I agree with your sentiment and intent, but who decides right or wrong? There is the question.

 

The league should make an independent panel to review it and determine right or wrong.

[outsidethebox]

38 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...they have a SIGNIFICANT (COUGH) hand slapping system in place whereby you eff up too many times and your crew gets demoted to a lesser game.....seems to be working, right??.........

We are the lesser game?

[Utah John]

I think the NFL already does have a system to grade referees, and they quietly demote people from being the crew chief to other positions, or let them go.  Watch a tape of a game from 10 or 15 years ago.  You'll remember that you used to see certain refs all the time.  You don't see them anymore but you don't think about particular people being there or not being there.  Some of them have let their own personalities intrude.  I don't think anyone would miss Ed Hoculi if he was dismissed.  Walt Coleman, who has screwed the Bills on so many occasions, is often one of the highest graded refs.

 

I wonder though if the grading includes failing to make calls when penalties do occur.  I've seen Shady's helmet almost twisted off by a blatant facemask grab, and no penalty called.  Missed calls happens a lot.  The ref who called an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty on Von Miller for pulling his hand away from Tyrod Taylor, helping the Bills win a game back when the Broncos were still a team to be feared, should be fired.  But actually I think he was doing the second Bills-Pats game.  And how many times is offensive holding NOT called, and then they get a guy for a ticky tack push.  It's inconsistent and unreliable, and it's ruining the game.

[JTown]

Bad calls?  What are you talking about?  The official on the field ruled that it was a touchdown. 

 The nfl overturned that call to the way they wanted it, despite not meeting the "conclusive evidence" required to overrule the call. The on field officials are now a puppet. 

Why would they fine or fire an official for doing exactly what he was told to do?  Or do you think he should have been fined or fired for his initial ruling of a touchdown?