Terry Pegula: "We Have to Fix Replay"

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, section122 said:

 

I am in the boat with you but it is exactly why the league doesn't care. If we aren't willing to vote with our eyeballs and our dollars they will continue to operate the same as they have been.

Agreed. We need Pegula and McBeane to get this right so we don’t have to worry about refs.

 

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Well, they were tied going into the half.  They lost by 3 TDs..

I’m not saying we lost strictly because of the refs.  They made it difficult for us to win while making it easier for the pats to win.  That is a fact.  If they made it easier for us to win and harder for the pats to win I believe we would’ve won the game.  In an evenly called game, they win.  It sucks to say that the team morale gets distraught when constantly taking in the butts by the refs.....but it’s true and I believe that it hurt our play in the 2nd half.  This happens to us routinely.  Once in awhile we get the refs on our side, but rarely. 

[Chris66]

8 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Agreed. We need Pegula and McBeane to get this right so we don’t have to worry about refs.

 

I’m not saying we lost strictly because of the refs.  They made it difficult for us to win while making it easier for the pats to win.  That is a fact.  If they made it easier for us to win and harder for the pats to win I believe we would’ve won the game.  In an evenly called game, they win.  It sucks to say that the team morale gets distraught when constantly taking in the butts by the refs.....but it’s true and I believe that it hurt our play in the 2nd half.  This happens to us routinely.  Once in awhile we get the refs on our side, but rarely. 

Thats the sign of a mentally soft team. Tied at the half and you let one bad play dictate the rest. 

I didnt see that. I thought the Bills played tough right till they were gassed. What I did see was a coaching staff fail to adapt the game plan in the second half.

McDermott doesnt seem like he is a x's and o's type of coach

[Haslett_Stomp]

3 hours ago, NewEra said:

I’ve been saying the refs have colluded for the pats and against the Bills for over a decade.  Did you guys expect them to overturn KBs td?  Unless you haven’t been watching Bills games for the last decade+, you would’ve known that they were going to overturn it.  There was zero doubt in my mind they would take the TD away.  Same with the 4th & 1.  Because the camera showed the ball crossing the line, I knew they’d overturn it.  It didn’t matter that he voluntarily pulled it back (yes, it doesn’t matter, but not for the Pats vs the Bills).  It’s just how it is. I wish I didn’t love this team so much.  It would make it possible to walk away from this joke of a league.  But I can’t walk away.  Ever.  Sigh.  F the NfL for inevitably taking a years off of my life.  The refs are on the take or instructed to help determine outcomes (not just against the Bills).  There’s isn’t anyone that can convince me otherwise.  

 

^ this.  I was watching the game in Western Massachusetts with my wife's family, who are all Pats*** fans.  I got up and left the room to grab another beer as soon as I saw that they were reviewing the play.  I told everyone the call was going to be reversed and they all thought I was nuts.  When I returned to the room at halftime, someone asked how I knew the play would be reversed and I said "it's the Patriots, they always get these calls against the Bills."

[PromoTheRobot]

2 hours ago, 87168 said:

hah! fix your teams first, terry.

Meanwhile we'll just bend over and spread 'em. 

[GG]

35 minutes ago, Chris66 said:

Thats the sign of a mentally soft team. Tied at the half and you let one bad play dictate the rest. 

I didnt see that. I thought the Bills played tough right till they were gassed. What I did see was a coaching staff fail to adapt the game plan in the second half.

McDermott doesnt seem like he is a x's and o's type of coach

Actually, the call that broke their back was the 4th down reversal.  

 

They totally stopped playing after that,  compounded by the weak PI call. 

 

They're competitors, but human.  After another one way call against them, they folded.  

[Chris66]

1 minute ago, GG said:

Actually, the call that broke their back was the 4th down reversal.  

 

They totally stopped playing after that,  compounded by the weak PI call. 

 

They're competitors, but human.  After another one way call against them, they folded.  

Not for nothing but you see that forward progress given in every nfl game. He was falling forward. Its not like he ran backwards trying to escape

[Yeezus]

Terry should worry about finding a franchise QB and a competent OC 

[GG]

4 minutes ago, Chris66 said:

Not for nothing but you see that forward progress given in every nfl game. He was falling forward. Its not like he ran backwards trying to escape

He pulled the ball back on his own.  There's really no debate on this play.  

 

As a player, at that time, your mindset changes and it was evident in their play.  

 

 

[GoBills808]

8 minutes ago, Chris66 said:

Not for nothing but you see that forward progress given in every nfl game. He was falling forward. Its not like he ran backwards trying to escape

Again, you do not understand the rules. Unless it's over the goal line, extending the ball forward doesn't constitute forward progress if you voluntarily bring it back before the play is over, which he very obviously did.

[Roundybout]

1 hour ago, Chris66 said:

How are they going to fix it. Its already as black and white as you can get. It leaves very little room for interpretation. 

 

The only people defending that call are Pats fans. Isn't that evidence enough?

[Chris66]

3 minutes ago, GG said:

He pulled the ball back on his own.  There's really no debate on this play.  

 

As a player, at that time, your mindset changes and it was evident in their play.  

 

 

I get what your saying but again you see the forward progress given at least 5-6 times every game. Its not uncommon

[Haslett_Stomp]

13 minutes ago, GG said:

Actually, the call that broke their back was the 4th down reversal.  

 

They totally stopped playing after that,  compounded by the weak PI call. 

 

They're competitors, but human.  After another one way call against them, they folded.  

 

Was that the same drive where Amandola's reception was about a yard short of the first down and the refs gave him a first down with no challenge from McDermott?  Romo noticed and pointed out he was short but the Bills just seemed to accept it and roll over.

[Chris66]

4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Again, you do not understand the rules. Unless it's over the goal line, extending the ball forward doesn't constitute forward progress if you voluntarily bring it back before the play is over, which he very obviously did.

I understand the rule. Im just saying its not uncommon. You see it every game

2 minutes ago, Haslett_Stomp said:

 

Was that the same drive where Amandola's reception was about a yard short of the first down and the refs gave him a first down with no challenge from McDermott?  Romo noticed and pointed out he was short but the Bills just seemed to accept it and roll over.

No it was when Lewis was falling forward andvextended the ball over the marker and pulled it back to his body when his knee finally hit the ground

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

2 hours ago, Direhard Fan said:

This will all mean nothing.  Under the rug.  Gooddell another five years and all that matters is the money.  The NFL doesn't care about fair.  It cares about money.  Shame they have wrecked football.  They don't even care.

 

 

...DEAD on....TV renues are locked in by contract......schedules are set by formula.....BIGGEST variable and NFL focal point is MERCHANDISE sales from a matchup.......could give a rat's azz about actual game outcome......

[Chris66]

3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

...DEAD on....TV renues are locked in by contract......schedules are set by formula.....BIGGEST variable and NFL focal point is MERCHANDISE sales from a matchup.......could give a rat's azz about actual game outcome......

So your saying that Pegula is in on it as well? He paid 600 million more than the team was evaluated and he doesnt care about winning?

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

4 minutes ago, Chris66 said:

So your saying that Pegula is in on it as well? He paid 600 million more than the team was evaluated and he doesnt care about winning?

 

 

...where the hell are you coming from?.....the LEAGUE is all money, NOT Pegula....re-read what I posted.......first, when Terry bought the Bills, he said, "they're Kim's baby" which is why he wanted Polian to come in as czar and train her, but feathers flew.....HOWEVER, it did NOT preclude HIS interest nor his STRONG desire to own a winner......it was the game right before the London trip that the Bills lost....TP was watching Sports Center in his office and on that particular Sunday, two or three BACK UP QB's threw for 300+ yds and led their teams to "W's".....Roman and Wrecks were walking by his office and he called them both in asking, "why the hell can't our players do this?"......they had no answers......could care less if you believe it or not....doesn't make a damn bit of difference to me and I do NOT need to post BS after 55 years of following this club....ain't happenin'.....

[Alaska Darin]

4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Maybe on the field but not in the replay booth, and especially when one official consistently makes bizarre calls in one team's favor. That's called game fixing,

Yeah, because location totally determines human nature.  The Pats have been good for a long time.  They get the calls.  Should it change?  Of course.  Will it?  Of course not.

 

All professional sports are run by arrogant elitists who could give a flying crap about the average ticket buyer.  You're worm food to them and they always think there's a line of people just itching to take your place.  Wanna make a real difference?  Turn it off and go outside.

[Billsandhorns]

32 minutes ago, Haslett_Stomp said:

 

Was that the same drive where Amandola's reception was about a yard short of the first down and the refs gave him a first down with no challenge from McDermott?  Romo noticed and pointed out he was short but the Bills just seemed to accept it and roll over.

Yes it was the same drive

[Luka]

If you love football, just watch college. Guys play because they love it, even the good ones because they haven't got the big check yet. Rules remain consistent. I've never once seen an incomplete pass called a fumble and recovered by the other team until yesterday during the Steelers/Texans game. The fact that the refs had to have a discussion about an incomplete screen pass that was tipped by the running back and fell harmlessly to the ground tells you all you need to know about the NFL.

[BobbyC81]

1 hour ago, Chris66 said:

Thats the sign of a mentally soft team. Tied at the half and you let one bad play dictate the rest. 

I didnt see that. I thought the Bills played tough right till they were gassed. What I did see was a coaching staff fail to adapt the game plan in the second half.

McDermott doesnt seem like he is a x's and o's type of coach

 

Sounds like Super Bowl XXVIII.  Bills lead by 7 at the half. Thurman Thomas fumbles on the 1st play of the 2nd half and it's returned for a TD which ties the game.  Thurman is inconsolable, the whole team gets deflated and game over.  That team though had the heartbreak of the the 3 prior Super Bowls so it didn't take much for a "here we go again" outlook that perhaps affects these Bills when playing the Pats.