co_springs_billsfan Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 I've just become less passionate about my fandom in general in recent years. After so many years of investing emotionally and getting nothing in return... I always want to squish the fish but it means less knowing that the season is inevitably another lost cause. Wake me up when parity is brought to the NFL.
Bob Lamb Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, GG said: Poll should be done by age group. For older geezers like me, yes. For the youngens, no. The Bills vs Dolphins was bad when it was Kelly vs Marino. But for sheer intensity the Buffalo Braves vs Boston Celtics was a lost worse. How's that for age group? And here's another no look behind the back pass by Ernie D! Edited December 25, 2017 by Bob Lamb 2
ExWNYer Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 2 hours ago, K-9 said: 0 for the 70s. ‘Nuff said. Thank you. That's where I stand on this. I'm a child of the '70s. I'll never forget. Their sissy-ass unis don't help their cause either.
Bob Lamb Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Mike in Horseheads said: I'll never forget Brian Cox and his BS Mike - the Montreal or San Juan Expos? Are you dumping the Orioles or just being nostalgic?
vorpma Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 Restructure putting Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, and Green Bay into the "Great Lakes Division;" the new black and blue and play all games outdoors! It creates new regional rivalries, years ago watching the Bears, Packers, Lions and Browns slug it out on a cold gray day was great football!
K-9 Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, vorpma said: Restructure putting Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, and Green Bay into the "Great Lakes Division;" the new black and blue and play all games outdoors! It creates new regional rivalries, years ago watching the Bears, Packers, Lions and Browns slug it out on a cold gray day was great football! Need to have four teams in each division for best symmetry. But if we were to move, the league should just have Buffalo and Baltimore swap divisions. Makes sense logistically, but I would miss our traditional AFL rivalries.
vorpma Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 I would too, I am an AFL devotee and will always be one. Great post, thanks!
May Day 10 Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 no rivalry to me. completely different regions and their fans dont even care. kelly vs marino was good but mainly vecause buffalo and miami were annually #1 and 2 in the division with super bowl aspirations.
Fadingpain Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) No, it doesn't matter, and it hasn't mattered for years and years. The Miami rivalry is now the New England rivalry, if you can call that a rivalry at all. I remember both sides of the Miami rivalry...years of being their whipping boy followed by us getting the better of them during the Kelly/Thomas/Bruce/Reed years. There were a LOT of important games played between those 2 teams during the Superbowl years, in both places but mostly in Buffalo, and we always seemed to win when it mattered...after a decade of getting our asses handed to us. That stuff has been gone probably since the retirements of Marino and Kelly. Edited December 26, 2017 by Fadingpain
chaccof Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Not nearly as much as it used to before NE became the dominant AFC East team. This. it was the for any Bills fan older than 45 until NE became the Beast of the East (and the west, south and central)......
Mike in Horseheads Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Bob Lamb said: Mike - the Montreal or San Juan Expos? Are you dumping the Orioles or just being nostalgic? Protesting that they won't pay Macahdo, so now supporting the Montreal expos since they will have the same chance as the O's
Augie Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 4 hours ago, K-9 said: 0 for the 70s. ‘Nuff said. It’s more than just that. Those were my formative years, and I sat freezing in the basement trying to warm up by the fire while I watched them prance around in flip flops and tee shirts that whole decade. I will NEVER forget or forgive!
Boatdrinks Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 It still matters, as they are a division opponent and success in the division always matters in the NFL. It's not nearly the same as it was when both franchises had elite QBs , and controlled the top echelons of the AFC East. Neither team has scaled those heights in recent times, though MIA has been better than the Bills. The new regime must have draft success and fix the QB position, as Brady's career is nearing the end. It's on the Bills to change the hierarchy in the division when the Patriots revert to the mean.
stinky finger Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 4 hours ago, K-9 said: 0 for the 70s. ‘Nuff said. I remember hating disco back then and for some time after. I hear it now and somehow it's not that bad. 1
Chef Jim Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 4 hours ago, Gugny said: Indeed! I think @Chef Jim is about 80 and he's gotten to the point where he doesn't even know who the Bills are playing on any given Sunday. And it’s !@#$ing awesome!! 1
Happy Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 The Bills and Dolphins battled for tops in the AFC East in the late 80's and most of the 90s. But the rise of the Patsies* and the 17 years of disparity has put an end to that. Now the rivalry, however futile, is agains NE and trying to unseat them. Maybe the Bills vs Dolphins rivalry will return; we'll see. But this is contingent on parity returning to the division.
K-9 Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 3 hours ago, Augie said: It’s more than just that. Those were my formative years, and I sat freezing in the basement trying to warm up by the fire while I watched them prance around in flip flops and tee shirts that whole decade. I will NEVER forget or forgive! ‘Nuff said from my POV. Feel free to embellish to your heart’s content. Nobody, least of all me, can speak for how anyone suffered through those years. I feel your pain. 1
Nick the Greek Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 Was better when it was Kelly vs Marino. I’m not old enough to remember the 70s. Always nice to beat em in December but I would say my hate is all for the Pats these days.
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 Yes! Digging through my YouTube videos, this from the game in Miami, when we loved Tyrod! Hope the same happens on New Year's Eve!
row_33 Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 8 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Protesting that they won't pay Macahdo, so now supporting the Montreal expos since they will have the same chance as the O's Red Sox and Yankees are very good and still hungry, no fun for us fans in Toronto.....
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