Dadonkadonk Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 In no particular order including the contenders for last WC spots Brady - 6th round Flacco - 1st round, trade down and then up Mariota - 1st round Newton - 1st round Keenum/Bradford - UDFA, FA former 1st round Goff - 1st round trade up(net loss of 4 draft picks to acquire) Brees - FA, former 2nd round Roethlisberger - 1st round Wilson - 3rd round Smith - FA, former 1st round Bortles - 1st round bust Ryan - 1st round Rivers - 1st round - trade down Wentz/Foles - 1st round trade up(5 total picks given up), 3rd round As many have pointed out, most playoff QBs come from the first round and fairly high in the draft.. However in only two cases did teams solely move up to get their QB. And the Eagles and Rams gave up five and four picks respectively to move up. Rams from the 15th spot took six high picks to move up to get Goff and a couple of low round scraps. More teams found their QB via FA rather than trading up in the first round. Steelers got the best QB in a draft class with possibly three HOF QBs by standing pat. (Trading up worked out great for the Giants and trading down worked out great for the Chargers). Note trading up netted the Bills the worst QB in the first round - Losman. So, what do you do arm chair GM's. Let's assume Bills pick around 15th for now. Who is going to give up 4 or five picks to move from 15 to 2 or 3? Who is going to give Cousins a truck load of money? Who stands pat follows the draft board and takes a QB if the right one falls to you? Me, I don't see any QB in this draft worth giving up four or five picks. I make a play for Cousins or Smith and use the draft picks to rebuild the defense. If I can't get either of those two in FA, then I stand pat and see if a QB falls to the Bills at 15. Then I trade down at least once and never trade up.
ticketssince61 Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 9 of those 13 were top 3 picks, and 2 more (Brees, Wilson) probably would have been if they were taller
Dadonkadonk Posted December 25, 2017 Author Posted December 25, 2017 12 hours ago, ticketssince61 said: 9 of those 13 were top 3 picks, and 2 more (Brees, Wilson) probably would have been if they were taller Exactly. So are they going to give up four or five picks to go up that high?
gonzo1105 Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Dadonkadonk said: Exactly. So are they going to give up four or five picks to go up that high? Yes, which is why they are accumulating so many draft picks. It also would t surprise me if they are going to add more picks via John Miller, Shaq Lawson, and Cordy Glenn
MAJBobby Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 4 hours ago, Dadonkadonk said: Exactly. So are they going to give up four or five picks to go up that high? They should. Go buy the 1st, 2nd overall 2
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 On 12/25/2017 at 1:24 AM, Dadonkadonk said: In no particular order including the contenders for last WC spots Brady - 6th round Flacco - 1st round, trade down and then up Mariota - 1st round Newton - 1st round Keenum/Bradford - UDFA, FA former 1st round Goff - 1st round trade up(net loss of 4 draft picks to acquire) Brees - FA, former 2nd round Roethlisberger - 1st round Wilson - 3rd round Smith - FA, former 1st round Bortles - 1st round bust Ryan - 1st round Rivers - 1st round - trade down Wentz/Foles - 1st round trade up(5 total picks given up), 3rd round As many have pointed out, most playoff QBs come from the first round and fairly high in the draft.. However in only two cases did teams solely move up to get their QB. And the Eagles and Rams gave up five and four picks respectively to move up. Rams from the 15th spot took six high picks to move up to get Goff and a couple of low round scraps. More teams found their QB via FA rather than trading up in the first round. Steelers got the best QB in a draft class with possibly three HOF QBs by standing pat. (Trading up worked out great for the Giants and trading down worked out great for the Chargers). Note trading up netted the Bills the worst QB in the first round - Losman. So, what do you do arm chair GM's. Let's assume Bills pick around 15th for now. Who is going to give up 4 or five picks to move from 15 to 2 or 3? Who is going to give Cousins a truck load of money? Who stands pat follows the draft board and takes a QB if the right one falls to you? Me, I don't see any QB in this draft worth giving up four or five picks. I make a play for Cousins or Smith and use the draft picks to rebuild the defense. If I can't get either of those two in FA, then I stand pat and see if a QB falls to the Bills at 15. Then I trade down at least once and never trade up. Taking Mayfield and never looking back.
Scott7975 Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, MAJBobby said: They should. Go buy the 1st, 2nd overall It would be nice if they can accomplish this and I agree. However, it takes two to tango and the team would be set back years if they get it wrong. Hopefully this staff knows what the hell they are doing. I don't think the Browns are trading out this year, but they hold two top 5 picks if I recall correctly. Maybe they might trade their lower one. Edited December 26, 2017 by Scott7975
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 15 hours ago, Dadonkadonk said: Exactly. So are they going to give up four or five picks to go up that high? If they don’t it will be a failure
row_33 Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 I’m more interested in what schools they came from, are top QBs coming from unheralded schools, and did they run an option game that is basically useless to winning in the pros?
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