ColoradoBills Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I think they are blaming McDermott for a dumb ass decision. And rightfully so. I was writing my post while you posted. Exactly!
PromoTheRobot Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 45 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Are you out of your mind? Seriously, you want to keep the guy? Why? I’m being serious, how can you say this? I'm not against keeping him next year while we draft our hopeful QB of the future. Unless you plan on pulling a Peterman and just starting a rookie. If you think people are upset at an 8-7 Bills team on the verge of the playoffs, wait till you see a followup 4-12 season, even with the QB of the future.
Maine-iac Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 13 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I'd venture a guess he's probably played a higher % of his teams snaps already this year than he did last year in Buffalo. He was banged up for 7 games and in and out of the lineup in 2016 and claimed to play the entire 2015 season with a torn groin. Funny how the argument is..........."see how good Woods is without Tyrod"...........but the same people will say "Sammy is no good because his per game production is WAY DOWN" ...... but without the "without Tyrod". Funny enough also is how the claim is how great they are somewhere else yet they are both being beat out by a rookie. I honestly think if they had Thompson signed and starting from the preseason on he'd have Watkins like numbers. Taylor loves a speed guy and it's his best pass. People want to argue pocket presence, I'll buy it. Holding the ball too long, you're absolutely right. Can Taylor throw? Yes he can. He misses some. They all do but he can throw. Taking the 15 yard sack yesterday was the kind of thing that can't happen though. 1
The_Dude Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: So he's currently got 5 more catches playing in 1 less game than with Taylor is that supposed to prove your point? Yeah. That’s my point. Look at his yards — he has more yards. Look at his YAC compared to Tyrod. There’s the whole frickin story. Look at the YAC. Edited December 25, 2017 by The_Dude
Teddy KGB Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 42 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: You are just another damsel in distress............save us or die Tyrod! I want to build around whoever the QB is.........does having playmakers in place HURT the next QB? Really? How so? Do they draft OL that can only block for Tyrod? Receivers that can only catch passes from Tyrod? And you think YOU have a clue..........YOU? My contention that you should figure on propping-up the QB you have rather than just seeing if he can pass himself out of a flaming dumpster has only been further enhanced by what the Eagles and Rams have done. And Nick Foles stepping in and playing well in place of Wentz has only FURTHER enhanced my position. One game sample size vs a terrible Giants team is the new metric for cot math ?
The_Dude Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 Anybody defending Tyrod Taylor MUST be sent to the pit of despair. Dilly dilly.
GoBills808 Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 13 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I believe Kirby also said most players hate him. Who gives a ****. They play hard for him.
Maine-iac Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 Steelers don't have Ben they still win. Pats don't have Brady they still win. Many good teams are just that, good teams. They're not getting rolled on for 300 yards rushing and 6 TD's. Sure there are teams with better QB's but look a little deeper. They also have better coaching, better pass catchers, better o-line, and a better defense. If they aren't better in those areas then they probably aren't doing any better than us. When was the last time Rivers won a SB?
GoBills808 Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: Steelers don't have Ben they still win. Pats don't have Brady they still win. Many good teams are just that, good teams. They're not getting rolled on for 300 yards rushing and 6 TD's. Sure there are teams with better QB's but look a little deeper. They also have better coaching, better pass catchers, better o-line, and a better defense. If they aren't better in those areas then they probably aren't doing any better than us. When was the last time Rivers won a SB? When do the Steelers win without Roethlisberger? When do the Patriots win without Brady?
HumbleAndHungry Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 Very well thought out post . Ppl will still defend Tyrod though
Maine-iac Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 11 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: When do the Steelers win without Roethlisberger? When do the Patriots win without Brady? I'm not doing the work for you but needless to say it's a fact. Brady is easy to look up. 11 and 4 one season and 3 and 1 another without Brady. Ben is more sporadic but it's there if you really care. The Steerlers have had several stretches with Ben hurt and managed to win. We have plenty of work to do to be a good team. QB is just one position. Granted an important one but if we can't win with Taylor we probably are not SB bound just by drafting a "franchise" QB.
GoBills808 Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 Just now, Maine-iac said: I'm not doing the work for you but needless to say it's a fact. Brady is easy to look up. 11 and 4 one season and 3 and 1 another without Brady. Ben is more sporadic but it's there if you really care. The Steerlers have had several stretches with Ben hurt and managed to win. We have plenty of work to do to be a good team. QB is just one position. Granted an important one but if we can't win with Taylor we probably are not SB bound just by drafting a "franchise" QB. Steelers don't win without Roethisberger. This stat is from 2016, but they're 117-58 with him and 13-11 without him. And that 11-5 Cassel-led Patriots team was 16-0 just the year before, which is a -5 differential so in a normal 11-5 season they'd have been 6-10, so no...I 100% disagree that the Steelers or Patriots win missing their respective quarterbacks.
Maine-iac Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 Just now, GoBills808 said: Steelers don't win without Roethisberger. This stat is from 2016, but they're 117-58 with him and 13-11 without him. And that 11-5 Cassel-led Patriots team was 16-0 just the year before, which is a -5 differential so in a normal 11-5 season they'd have been 6-10, so no...I 100% disagree that the Steelers or Patriots win missing their respective quarterbacks. You do realize that 13 and 11 is winning? You are claiming one thing and proving another. You are arguing for arguings sake.
GoBills808 Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Maine-iac said: You do realize that 13 and 11 is winning? You are claiming one thing and proving another. You are arguing for arguings sake. Christ...13-11 is not winning when it's held against 117-58. Are you saying they'd have had to go 0-24 to make the case? 1-23 would have ruined it?
Maine-iac Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 Why does it have to be held against anything. It's simple Ben is out and they won more than they lost. Brady is out and they win more than they lose. Tell me how we've done with out Taylor? Winning is when you win more than you lose. I'm not even sure what the hell you are talking about.
Teddy KGB Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Maine-iac said: Why does it have to be held against anything. It's simple Ben is out and they won more than they lost. Brady is out and they win more than they lose. Tell me how we've done with out Taylor? Winning is when you win more than you lose. I'm not even sure what the hell you are talking about. Steelers and Patriots win ball games But don’t forget Tyrod still sucks. See the OP if you need to rehash it again.
Maine-iac Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 So you are restating what's already been said and then telling me how to rehash it?
Teddy KGB Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: So you are restating what's already been said and then telling me how to rehash it? Carry on with the excuses. Nice avatar, who are you gonna change it to next ?
Teddy KGB Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 21 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: Because Spikes carried us to the SB? Because Taylor is a low end starter/future backup.
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