ny33 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I don't know the protocol for how the Bills would start something along these lines, but the call from New York today was inexcusable. In addition to the numerous members of the national media, including Peter King, deeming the reversal wrong, PFT's Michael Smith said, "Al Riveron has taken it upon himself to change the standard for what constitutes enough evidence to overturn the call on the field. He routinely changes calls when there simply isn't indisputable, clear, and obvious evidence that the call on the field was wrong." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 There was no way he could see if the knees were down. he was making an assumption - no facts based on the shots we could see as fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 NFL doesn’t care. Who else is “investigating” him in that case? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) It would almost certainly be against NFL rules for the Bills to pay private investigators to see if he has ties to gambling or anything along those lines. That being said, I hope that teams like the Bills and Steelers put enough pressure on the league for the FBI to take interest in the possible links between officiating and organized gambling in the league. Tim Donaghy and European soccer teams like Juventus are evidence enough that this stuff can happen in the highest echelons of professional sports. Edited December 24, 2017 by ny33 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) I’m not a ref complainer but we got SCREWED in that game Edited December 24, 2017 by Kirby Jackson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 If there is any accountability, he will be fired. But we all know there isn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I vote yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: I’m not a ref complained but we got SCREWED in that game A usual with the Pats. Patriots get favored. Even Steelers get bad calls with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Just now, ny33 said: It would almost certainly be against NFL rules for the Bills to pay private investigators to see if he has ties to gambling or anything along those lines. That being said, I hope that teams like the Bills and Steelers put enough pressure on the league for the FBI to take interest in the possible links between officiating and organized gambling in the league. Tim Donaghy and European soccer teams like Juventus are evidence enough that this stuff can happen in the highest echelons of professional sports. The league themselves are the problem with the NFL. They will never open an investigation on themselves. The NFL is classified as “entertainment”, they would technically be allowed to fix games, as long as illegal gambling ties remained hidden. I’m not convinced that it is gambling either. I’m more convinced that certain owners are in Goodell’s pocket. Goodell has been a curse who slowly began destroying the league the day he took control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 2 weeks in a row. Two times the Pats**** get gifted a call from NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davspo Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Investigated? Are you serious the NFL is part of it- wake up people 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 At least give an explanation when you reverse a call... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Just now, LeGOATski said: At least give an explanation when you reverse a call... There was nothing to explain other than we are reversing the call because if it's close it has to go in the Patriots favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Nope, just fired for incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 More heartbreak for Bills fans. The truth is that you can not beat the refs and the Pats. Every time we gained momentum, the refs overturned it. (KB TD, Shady 1st down) Every time we began to put a drive together, the refs called something to overcome. (holding) Little by little it deflates a team. Soon the fire is put out and NE begins to pounce. If NE can't do it, somehow they get a magical call (4th down) to keep the drive alive or put themselves in a better position. It's excruciating to see the slow death of the Bills and the cheating that allows the Pats to dominate. It's truly sickening. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: More heartbreak for Bills fans. The truth is that you can not beat the refs and the Pats. Every time we gained momentum, the refs overturned it. (KB TD, Shady 1st down) Every time we began to put a drive together, the refs called something to overcome. (holding) Little by little it deflates a team. Soon the fire is put out and NE begins to pounce. If NE can't do it, somehow they get a magical call (4th down) to keep the drive alive or put themselves in a better position. It's excruciating to see the slow death of the Bills and the cheating that allows the Pats to dominate. It's truly sickening. I get this logic. That’s why I’m taking a couple of 15s early and sending a few scubs in late to punish Brady. F it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
run dat back Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Why would the refs fix this game for the Pats? There's no money to be made on the favorites. If anything, wouldn't they be fixing it, and betting on, the underdog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Buffalo is a small fan base that will follow the team no matter what. New England is a big market with finicky fans. It's all about money. Plus, I think they get good rating when the pats win. People tune in just wanting to see them lose. I think they get all the calls because of money, influence, and these things above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 It will take a civil suit. The league won’t do it by itself. Someone should sue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Yes. Something smells fishy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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