Bill_with_it Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 1 hour ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: What I got from the OP is that Cousins will ask for money in the range of the elite QB’s. Cousins isn’t in the same league as Brady or Rogers, we all can agree on that. The issue is teams can’t then go spend money on other talent. Paying elite QB money to a good/average QB sets your franchise back. I agree with what he says. Cousins is average to good. Paying Cousins 25-30 million a year isn’t something I want or foresee in Buffalo. The market will correct itself, this year could speed that up if teams didn’t bid for Cousins services above what he is. I think some of the folks in here never watched the fellow play one down of football; simultaneously equating the redskins team to that of the browns revered history, then say Cousins sucks. Nevermind not having a relevant run game, a decent offensive game plan, terrible offensive line, and a below average defense. Somehow there are folks in here thst believe we havebto acquire brady/rodgers or bust. So they can then wallow in the playoffless misery that we are in for rternity. Its like some weird form of self inflicted torment. 1
Real McClappy Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) What don't people get about having a proper plan on QB? If you draft a high end 1st round rookie it's a 50% chance that he hits or busts. If he is a bust it sets the club back 3 to 4 years easily. We need to cover the bust factor IMO so we can be competitive and make some playoffs with a top 10-15 QB Sign Cousins or Smith to a 3 year deal, draft a QB this year in 2018 to properly groom behind that vet for a year or 2. if the rookie is legit you trade the vet. If the rookie is not legit you draft another. To the $ freaks. Your going to have to pay a QB big time money at some point and time. Dedicate it now and build around that type of salary cap structure now so it does not create salary cap havoc later. We have the $ to do so NOW. Edited December 23, 2017 by Real McCoy 4
richardb1952 Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) I would rather take A. Smith who QBs an offense very similar to Bills. Bills will draft a QB but I believe the top 2 will be gone before Bills can move into 3rd position. If that is the case, the Bills will have to decide if another QB (like Jackson or Allen) are worth moving up for because there are a lot of QB needy teams ahead of the Bills. Are either of those two, or someone else for that matter, worth moving up to the third position for. I don't see it happening. I don't see the value there to move up. If they don't move up I believe the top 4 or five rated QBs will be off the board by the time Bills will be picking in late teens or early twenties. Whether third pick or later, I don't see a QB after Rosen/ Darnold that can come in as a day 1 starter. Agree with "Real McCoy" above. Edited December 23, 2017 by richardb1952 1
ghostwriter Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 There is no way he walks, I expect him to stay with the Redskins.
JaCrispy Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 Don’t forget that Washington will also likely want at least a 1st round pick for Cousins
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 Cousins is a known commodity and can step in and upgrade the most important position on our team and win now. We’re loaded with draft picks and Brady is on a decline. Yeah I just said that. I actually think with everything going on in Buffalo he would take a long hard look at us if he hits the market
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 I would take Cousins in a heartbeat and anyone in Buffalo that wouldn't needs to get there heads checked. A proven QB that has shown what he can do with decent talent has won the division and still puts up decent numbers with a receiving core equally as banged up as ours. Our defense is an upgrade and our running game is better I think that would all he would need for us to be a 10 win team consistently in this league. I say bet the house on it and give us something to cheer for next year. Don't understand why Washington hasn't signed him to a long term deal yet.
ghostwriter Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 This draft reminds me of the 1983 draft with Elway, Kelly and Marino. Rosen and Darnold will be franchise players and I think between Rudolph, Allen, Jackson and Mayfield, odds are I think there willbe a third franchise QB somewhere in there.
PIZ Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 When Tyrod is your QB, you should juump for joy if we sign Cousins.
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Rob's House said: I don't want Cousins because I want to set a playoff drought that will never be matched. That and I hate bringing on proven talent when you can roll the dice on a rookie who might be good. And not having followed his team or career all that closely, I can tell you with great confidence that his consistently elite stats are an aberration, and his team's failure to make the playoffs this year is mostly his fault. Add to this we just don't know if his upside is much better than what we already have in Peterman 1
Chicken Boo Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 Fun FACT: As a full time starter, Cousins has never had his feature back rush for more than 752 yards. For those counting, that's 47 yards a game. Yet he still puts up stats and has still led his team to the playoffs.
Success Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 Not really McBean’s style - I definitely see them drafting their guy.
Chicken Boo Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 24 minutes ago, buffalobloodfloridahome said: Don't understand why Washington hasn't signed him to a long term deal yet. They could have had him locked up for $20 mill per season the year Osweiler was signed by the Texans. They blew it. Currently, Kirk would take up too much of their cap and they have lots of holes to fill.
mannc Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: For values of "not accomplished that much on the field either" that included back-to-back seasons with high AY/A, mid-60s completion percentage, and >2 doz TDs. I'd take that value of "not accomplished that much" and most Bills fans would too. And yet, the Chargers were willing to move on from him... 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: For values of "not accomplished that much on the field either" that included back-to-back seasons with high AY/A, mid-60s completion percentage, and >2 doz TDs. I'd take that value of "not accomplished that much" and most Bills fans would too. I also seem to recall that Brees was traded to the Saints for a second round pick, and was not a FA, like Cousins, but maybe I’m misremembering that.
Woodman19 Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 Because bringing in a an imperfect QB who can actually pass would make our current imperfect QB who can't look terrible and that doesn't suit an agenda.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bill_with_it said: I think some of the folks in here never watched the fellow play one down of football; simultaneously equating the redskins team to that of the browns revered history, then say Cousins sucks. Nevermind not having a relevant run game, a decent offensive game plan, terrible offensive line, and a below average defense. Somehow there are folks in here thst believe we havebto acquire brady/rodgers or bust. So they can then wallow in the playoffless misery that we are in for rternity. Its like some weird form of self inflicted torment. I have watched him play. He doesn’t suck. He also will need a strong supporting cast to win.you could say those same things about Ne and GB at times. Still Rogers and Brady win with what they have. Paying Cousins money like he is Elite doesn’t make him play like it. Edited December 23, 2017 by atlbillsfan1975
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 With Cousins we can focus our draft picks and FA on getting him weapons and O-Line help. If we surround Cousins with good players he will take us to the playoffs next year.
Big Turk Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) This is exactly what I have been saying in multiple other threads when discussing Cousins...he doesn't make up for the good players you will have to let walk or not be able to sign because of how much you are paying him. And he doesnt make the plays when you NEED him to make plays...when its the first quarter yeah he will throw an 80 yard TD on the dime...when its 3rd and 8 on the opponent 30 down 4 with 2 minutes left, he tends not to make the right decision. Imho, some people have that ability and some people don't. He doesn't. He isnt situatuonally aware. Ant team who signs him to a huge contract will live to regret it long-term. Edited December 23, 2017 by matter2003
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) Is it possible that no team offers him 25 mil? He is getting this from the redskins only because of the franchise tag. I think they haven't signed him long term because he isn't worth that much, I think he is a 15 mil QB. On a side note I think there should be a cap limit on player contracts; paying a guy 25m really hampers a team's ability to keep the other good players on the team. The players will never go for this but if the majority realised that they aren't going to come close to making that kind of money and would make more overall if one or two guys wasn't hogging all the cash. Edited December 23, 2017 by Buffalo Barbarian
Big Turk Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 1 hour ago, buffalobloodfloridahome said: I would take Cousins in a heartbeat and anyone in Buffalo that wouldn't needs to get there heads checked. A proven QB that has shown what he can do with decent talent has won the division and still puts up decent numbers with a receiving core equally as banged up as ours. Our defense is an upgrade and our running game is better I think that would all he would need for us to be a 10 win team consistently in this league. I say bet the house on it and give us something to cheer for next year. Don't understand why Washington hasn't signed him to a long term deal yet. Proven to do exactly what? Put up big numbers or win games? People need to stop looking at numbers and start looking at results.
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