Gary M Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 On 12/22/2017 at 3:12 PM, KD in CA said: I agree. We should call a spade a spade and call it "Fighting to eliminate barbarians" Expand They used to call it a "Crusade"
LeviF Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 On 12/22/2017 at 4:23 PM, Gary M said: They used to call it a "Crusade" Expand
Koko78 Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 War has always been 'politics by other means'.
Gary M Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 On 12/22/2017 at 4:17 PM, Paulus said: Nice bait. Expand On 12/22/2017 at 4:31 PM, LeviF91 said: Expand Why can't I see these?
LeviF Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 On 12/22/2017 at 4:46 PM, Gary M said: Why can't I see these? Expand Possibly an issue with your browser or somesuch. Here's a link instead for mine: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/176/880/239.jpg
Gary M Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 On 12/22/2017 at 4:48 PM, LeviF91 said: Possibly an issue with your browser or somesuch. Here's a link instead for mine: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/176/880/239.jpg Expand yeah, that's blocked. damn company
sherpa Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 Want to read something "interesting." Rough, but interesting. "Can't Kill Enough To Win....Think Again." https://m.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2017-12/cant-kill-enough-win-think-again
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 On 12/22/2017 at 1:58 PM, Justice said: I’ve heard this phrase countless times in my life and I just don’t get it. It’s a serious question. We haven’t been attacked on our soil here in the states since Pearl Harbor. Can someone please explain it to me? Expand I was totally against the Iraq War but I get the idea behind it. Democratic nations that are stable are peaceful and make for a better world. Vietnam turned out to be a bad idea, but if they had become a democratic nation that would have been good, too. The more freedom loving countries in the world the better and if we have to fight, like in Korea, to help form, protect or aid democratic allies, I generally think its a good idea. Can you imagine if Hitler had won?
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 On 12/22/2017 at 4:54 PM, sherpa said: Want to read something "interesting." Rough, but interesting. "Can't Kill Enough To Win....Think Again." https://m.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2017-12/cant-kill-enough-win-think-again Expand You can if you kill them ALL. Or materially enough of them that they give up.
DC Tom Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 On 12/22/2017 at 4:54 PM, sherpa said: Want to read something "interesting." Rough, but interesting. "Can't Kill Enough To Win....Think Again." https://m.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2017-12/cant-kill-enough-win-think-again Expand That's actually pretty stupid an ignorant on multiple levels. Not surprising from the UNSI...
GoBills808 Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 On 12/22/2017 at 3:02 PM, Justice said: I didn’t count 9/11 because it wasn’t an attack from a military force. Expand 'Military force' needs defining...if you're thinking Japan = Pearl Harbor so Saudi Arabia =/= September 11th or ISIS =/= what-have-you and thus our 'freedom' (again, nebulous) isn't in jeopardy...your question seems dated to say the least.
Nanker Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 On 12/22/2017 at 1:58 PM, Justice said: I’ve heard this phrase countless times in my life and I just don’t get it. It’s a serious question. We haven’t been attacked on our soil here in the states since Pearl Harbor. Can someone please explain it to me? Expand We enjoy many "freedoms" in this country. Most are codified in The Constitution and its amendments. Conservatives and Libertarians are very conscious of these individual and collective freedoms and strive to protect them. Thus, "fighting for our freedom" isn't just about keeping us all from being conquered by a foreign power.
3rdnlng Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 On 12/22/2017 at 4:46 PM, Gary M said: Why can't I see these? Expand I guess your mom's prediction came true, eh? 1 1
westerndecline Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 On 12/22/2017 at 2:09 PM, LeviF91 said: 2,996 Expand Helped install Saddam Used both saddam and iran against each other Supports ruthless monarchy in Saudi Arabia 1948 Bombing of yemen rebels Nefarious activities versus Libya unprovoked Support of Ruthless dictator in Egypt for decades 1953 Iran The United States deserved 9/11 you can blame the United States government and their naked aggression first Middle Eastern people for oil The 3000 americans who died have one entity to blame The U.S. govt PERIOD You're not fighting for Freedom you're fighting for the central banks across the world along with foreign corporations
3rdnlng Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 On 12/23/2017 at 12:22 AM, westerndecline said: Helped install Saddam Used both saddam and iran against each other Supports ruthless monarchy in Saudi Arabia 1948 Bombing of yemen rebels Nefarious activities versus Libya unprovoked Support of Ruthless dictator in Egypt for decades 1953 Iran The United States deserved 9/11 you can blame the United States government and their naked aggression first Middle Eastern people for oil The 3000 americans who died have one entity to blame The U.S. govt PERIOD You're not fighting for Freedom you're fighting for the central banks across the world along with foreign corporations Expand You know, you can go !@#$ yourself.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 On 12/23/2017 at 12:22 AM, westerndecline said: Helped install Saddam Used both saddam and iran against each other Supports ruthless monarchy in Saudi Arabia 1948 Bombing of yemen rebels Nefarious activities versus Libya unprovoked Support of Ruthless dictator in Egypt for decades 1953 Iran The United States deserved 9/11 you can blame the United States government and their naked aggression first Middle Eastern people for oil The 3000 americans who died have one entity to blame The U.S. govt PERIOD You're not fighting for Freedom you're fighting for the central banks across the world along with foreign corporations Expand And who runs the banks? 1
westerndecline Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 Notice i said the U.S. govt Not the American ppl The truth shall set u free!
keepthefaith Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 On 12/22/2017 at 2:17 PM, Justice said: As tragic as a day that was our freedom was never under any serious threat Expand 3000 or so families would take great offense to that statement.
sherpa Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 On 12/23/2017 at 4:17 PM, keepthefaith said: 3000 or so families would take great offense to that statement. Expand So would a group of airline pilots who enjoyed the "freedom" of going to work to take care of passengers and get them where they're going without having their throats slashed.
GG Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 On 12/22/2017 at 2:17 PM, Justice said: As tragic as a day that was our freedom was never under any serious threat Expand Flip the question on its head and ask how flying three planes into buildings full of people, or running people down with a semi truck is supposed to ensure the freedom to prostrate on a rug 5 times a day?
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