SoTier Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 15 hours ago, kdiggz said: not unless Bortles has some kind of Flacco type postseason where he gets on a hot streak. but they are a QB away from winning it all. if they somehow got Eli in the postseason then put them down as the AFC favorite Early in the season, I pretty much thought like you do, but Bortles has been playing pretty well since about mid-season, and has been even better the last three games or so. I don't know if the proverbial light has turned on or if he's decided he'd rather be an NFL QB than a party boy or if Marrone is some kind of "QB whisperer", but he seems to be more than competent. I would definitely take him over either Winston or Mariota at this point as both of those guys seem to be trending down rather than improving.
PatsFanNH Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 15 hours ago, njbuff said: I don't know if they are or they aren't, but thanks to all those top five picks that they have had for years, their time table has certainly been sped up in terms of being a contender. So, does Marrone look like a genius by kicking the Bills and the fans to the curb or is it just pure good luck? What do you think? With that D God yes!!! That Defense reminds me of the 2000 Ravens I think they are that good! Their only issue is a QB who when going into Pitt or NE will probably crap himself and cost them the game.
T master Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) I wouldn't put Marrone in the genius category but Defense wins championships & if that holds true that team has a HUGE chance at winning it all !! I will be interested to see next year if they lose a couple of their coaches to other teams like their D coordinator if Marrone can keep them at the top of the heap because if he is anything like a lot of these coaches & puts total faith into a new coordinator & changes things just enough to screw it up (kind of like the Bills have done on their offense) then he will be just another coach that everything fell into place . But if that were to happen & he had to change a coordinator & he has the where with all to hire some one with a similar scheme to keep continuity then i would say he is a good coach but i wouldn't put him in the brilliant category !! Edited December 21, 2017 by T master
aristocrat Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 They are built like seattle in those superbowl runs. crazy good defense and a big run game and a qb who just manages games and doesn't lose em. Brady is not going to put up points on them and that run game will wreck the pats. As long as bortles plays within himself they can make a run. Look at the texans last year against the pats. If they had any offense they could have won that game. 1
PaattMaann Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 If Fournette is healthy for the playoffs, yes they can compete with any team. Nasty defense, Bortles actually looking like a QB AND a healthy Fournette....they could feast They could also lose in the first round, its the playoffs
jrober38 Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 They look an awful lot like the Ravens when they won a few years ago. If Bortles stays hot, they can beat anyone in the NFL. The rest of their roster is loaded with talent.
DrDawkinstein Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 So this was posted on the NFL subreddit yesterday: Jacksonville, Philadelphia, LA Rams, and Buffalo are the most likely "current playoff teams" to win the Super Bowl based on a shared regular season stat of all Super Bowl winning teams Quote Did you know that all Super Bowl winning teams have had 23 or more takeaways on defense by the end of the regular season? The record was 25 defensive takeaways by the end of the regular season until last season when New England broke it by winning the Super Bowl with only 23 takeaways by the end of the regular season The other playoff teams takeaways stats are: KC: 21, New Orleans: 20, New England: 18, Pittsburgh: 18, Carolina: 18, Minnesota: 17, Tennessee: 16, and Atlanta: 11. Will this random trend continue or will a team win the Super Bowl with less than 23 defensive takeaways by the end of the regular season?
PaattMaann Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 54 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: With that D God yes!!! That Defense reminds me of the 2000 Ravens I think they are that good! Their only issue is a QB who when going into Pitt or NE will probably crap himself and cost them the game. why would NE defense make any QB crap themselves?
CommonCents Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 10 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: why would NE defense make any QB crap themselves? The fear is Bortles going full 8 mile and puking all over himself infront of the mirror. Not what is in front of him on the field.
PatsFanNH Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: why would NE defense make any QB crap themselves? I think TT is a better QB and he crapped himself on the very first drive in Buffalo against NE. And believe it or not they have the 6th best scorin D in the NFL so it happens a lot. And well Bortles is not Breese, Big Ben, or Rogers hell he isn't as good as TT IMO.
PaattMaann Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 Just now, PatsFanNH said: I think TT is a better QB and he crapped himself on the very first drive in Buffalo against NE. And believe it or not they have the 6th best scorin D in the NFL so it happens a lot. And well Bortles is not Breese, Big Ben, or Rogers hell he isn't as good as TT IMO. TT isnt a good QB so bad example. As a fan I think you give your defense a little too much credit haha. There isnt even one playmaker on that defense that would strike fear into an opposing QB. Middle of the road or worse in almost all defensive categories, especially weak against the pass. If I was an opposing QB I would be excited to play that D in the playoffs (Belecheat or not). As far as scoring defense ranking, well duh, they play the putrid AFC East 6 times!!!! haha
ProcessTheTrust Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 Legit SB winner threat? I wouldn't say that. Really nice surprise that gives us hope for a legit turnaround? For sure.
aristocrat Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: I think TT is a better QB and he crapped himself on the very first drive in Buffalo against NE. And believe it or not they have the 6th best scorin D in the NFL so it happens a lot. And well Bortles is not Breese, Big Ben, or Rogers hell he isn't as good as TT IMO. bortles just had the best 3 game stretch in nfl history. now can he keep that up? unlikely. but he is having a tyrod like season with limiting turnovers which is what he has done a lot of...previous low int in a season was 16 and he only has 8 this year. he can also throw the ball more than tyrod. he just can't go into ne and throw picks.
PatsFanNH Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: TT isnt a good QB so bad example. As a fan I think you give your defense a little too much credit haha. There isnt even one playmaker on that defense that would strike fear into an opposing QB. Middle of the road or worse in almost all defensive categories, especially weak against the pass. If I was an opposing QB I would be excited to play that D in the playoffs (Belecheat or not). As far as scoring defense ranking, well duh, they play the putrid AFC East 6 times!!!! haha Ya we only faced the AFC East 4 times so far. And scoring D is the only stat that means anything to me as if they keep teams under 20 the Pats win. That said Birtles sucks, he is beyond bad and our secondary is pretty damn good it's our LBers who are weak right now. They are the typical Pats D bend but don't break. Which is what is needed with the lack of talent up front.
PaattMaann Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Ya we only faced the AFC East 4 times so far. And scoring D is the only stat that means anything to me as if they keep teams under 20 the Pats win. That said Birtles sucks, he is beyond bad and our secondary is pretty damn good it's our LBers who are weak right now. They are the typical Pats D bend but don't break. Which is what is needed with the lack of talent up front. yea scoring D is a great and usually translates to wins...but the conversation is about a QB "crapping their pants" facing a D...lol...patriots arent scary
Magox Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 When I think Jags, my initial thought is a burst of laughter. But then after seeing how they've played and the very impressive victories they've had, I certainly COULD see them making a run deep in the playoffs.
PatsFanNH Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: yea scoring D is a great and usually translates to wins...but the conversation is about a QB "crapping their pants" facing a D...lol...patriots arent scary I didn't say just any QB I said Blake "I suck" Bortles. He will collapse in a big game on the road, because BB and Tomlin will MAKE him beat them and I just don't think he can do it esp not twice in a row. My point INT is I see him throwing an untimely pick which either is returned for a TD or is so close even his D can't stop the O of NE or Pitt. Edited December 21, 2017 by PatsFanNH
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 I'm still irritated that Moroon quit and screwed us over I hope they lose weekly
aristocrat Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 1 minute ago, PatsFanNH said: I didn't say just any QB I said Blake "I suck" Bortles. He will collapse in a big game on the road, because BB and Tomlin will MAKE him beat them and I just don't think he can do it esp not twice in a row. the jags defense will not let either of those teams score. do you remember what the jags did at heinz field? destroyed pitt. bortles doesn't have to beat either of them. just has to not lose the game. as long as fournette is playing. 1
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