njbuff Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 I don't know if they are or they aren't, but thanks to all those top five picks that they have had for years, their time table has certainly been sped up in terms of being a contender. So, does Marrone look like a genius by kicking the Bills and the fans to the curb or is it just pure good luck? What do you think?
SaviorPeterman Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 Some will laugh at this thought, but why not considering how wide open the conference is outside of New England. In fact I've felt all along that the Jags are the single biggest threat to the Patriots this year because of their defense. And all of a sudden Bortles has been on fire the last month so you have to give St. Doug and Nate Hackett a lot of credit and if they have an offense that can score points in the playoffs look out. Either way I would be very surprised if Marrone doesn't win coach of the year over McVay for the sole reason of salvaging Bortles career and completely turning around a Jags team that was god awful the previous few years. He's done yeoman's work at every level and living up to the young Bill Parcells comparisons. Also yes Marrone does look very smart in hindsight for ditching this organization even if it took him a few years to make it back to the top of the coaching food chain. He obviously had the Pegulas pegged so to speak and realized they had no business being pro sports owners. In five years when the Bills are likely still floundering and Marrone has led the Jags to at least one championship it will be another painful footnote and reminder for Bills fans. 1
corta765 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 24 minutes ago, njbuff said: I don't know if they are or they aren't, but thanks to all those top five picks that they have had for years, their time table has certainly been sped up in terms of being a contender. So, does Marrone look like a genius by kicking the Bills and the fans to the curb or is it just pure good luck? What do you think? I would say this. In the AFC they at least have the potential to upset PIT or NE. I don't know if they have to go two consecutive weeks with those two if they come out ahead just given the war of attrition. BUT if I was New England I would fear them more then Pittsburgh because of that defense and how good they run the ball which NE fails to do well against. And PIT already knows what Jax can do. 17 minutes ago, SaviorPeterman said: Some will laugh at this thought, but why not considering how wide open the conference is outside of New England. In fact I've felt all along that the Jags are the single biggest threat to the Patriots this year because of their defense. And all of a sudden Bortles has been on fire the last month so you have to give St. Doug and Nate Hackett a lot of credit and if they have an offense that can score points in the playoffs look out. Either way I would be very surprised if Marrone doesn't win coach of the year over McVay for the sole reason of salvaging Bortles career and completely turning around a Jags team that was god awful the previous few years. He's done yeoman's work at every level and living up to the young Bill Parcells comparisons. Also yes Marrone does look very smart in hindsight for ditching this organization even if it took him a few years to make it back to the top of the coaching food chain. He obviously had the Pegulas pegged so to speak and realized they had no business being pro sports owners. In five years when the Bills are likely still floundering and Marrone has led the Jags to at least one championship it will be another painful footnote and reminder for Bills fans. I wouldn't go to this extent. It was a straight up power battle between Whaley who had Brandon on his side and Marrone who would've got Polian in if he won. Don't forget for a sizeable amount of time after the last game it was expected that Polian was coming in as the football Czar and Whaley was toast. Not sure if it matters that much now we pissed 2 years away with Rex but McD isn't doing too shabby so I will give him time.
K-9 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 With that defense? Yes. They have a legit chance. And Marrone got nothing BUT lucky after he thought he was a lock for the Jest job he didn’t get and ended up in Jax. 1
Another Fan Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 They already slammed the Steelers earlier in the year. Seriously though if it ain't the Steelers or Patriots in the Super Bowl it may be the Jags
K D Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 not unless Bortles has some kind of Flacco type postseason where he gets on a hot streak. but they are a QB away from winning it all. if they somehow got Eli in the postseason then put them down as the AFC favorite
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 Fair question who did they lose to again and where?
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) ....Marrone would probably still be here if Brandon and Whaley didn't turn on him......Whaley is gone and Brandon got kicked upstairs with ZERO operations input...pretty sure TP knows who were the culprits..Pegula never would have offered him an extension directly if he didn't want him...would we be in a better position?....who knows, but the Wrecks Era is erased from hisotry as are the repairs..... Edited December 20, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy
boyst Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 Carolina has a legit chance of being the NFC opponent
billsbackto81 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 Top 5 picks for the last 10 years better lead to a talented roster. Add an owner who wants to win and will spend to do it and you have a winning trifecta. Soft division and a favorable schedule. Losses to Tenn, Ari, Raiders and Jets. If the Bills get in I honestly can see them beating them. Bortles has played well as of late because the D takes the heat off. Also he's basking in the glow of having a child as he and his wife had a child this past weekend ( I work in the Jacksonville hospital where they registered). I see good things in their future, but not this year as far as SB is concerned and Bortles is not the answer.
Lfod Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) He walked out of a HC job. He is in another HC job. I read people thought he would never be a head coach again. Mocked him for not getting a head coaching job. Then they doubted he would not work well with Coughlin when he did and said he would fail. I always viewed him as a lesser Bill Belicheck. A serious dude just not proven. I wonder how many regrets people feel about not taking a serious dude seriously. Edited December 20, 2017 by Lfod
westerndecline Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 A great not good but great pass rush and strong running game will always have a chance at a championship 1 1
GunnerBill Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 If Bortles plays like he has the past 3 weeks then yes they are. 2
plenzmd1 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 they beat Pittsburgh, yes. But that's about it. Cake schedule so far, easiest in the NFL y far. Having said that, they look very good, I am actually interested how they look at the 49ers this week.. I got a feeling that's a loss for them 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Lfod said: He walked out of a HC job. He is in another HC job. I read people thought he would never be a head coach again. Mocked him for not getting a head coaching job. Then they doubted he would work well with Coughlin when he did and said he would fail. I always viewed him as a lesser Bill Belicheck. ...he actually walked away from the 4 year, $19.6 mil extension Pegula offered him.....but with Brandon and Whaley turning on him because they hated his General Patton like style, it was pretty evident they could make his life hell.....so he took the 4 mil and moved on....Whaley is gone and Brandon is upstairs...Pegula removed the "flies in the ointment"..... Edited December 20, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy 1
Lfod Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...he actually walked away from the 4 year, $19.6 mil extension Pegula offered him.....but with Brandon and Whaley turning on him because they hated his General Patton like style, it was pretty evident they could make his life hell.....so he took the 4 mil and moved on....Whaley is gone and Brandon is upstairs...Pegula removed the "flies in the ointment"..... Serious hypothetical question. If he stayed in Buffalo would he have broken the drought by this year? I myself think he would have. I also think that's the real question to ask. Edited December 20, 2017 by Lfod 1
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 not if their playing the refs and patsies** in the afc championship, they'll never make it to the sb. 1
Hatszel Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 Had he stayed with the Bills we would have been there The following year he left. So he wasted time and cost our franchise to boot. You don't just drop a billion dollars and have some coach try and punk you into a bigger contract.
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 That's one nasty defense they have led by 2 good young Pro Bowl corners. They have a really tough young runner in Fournette. Good receivers. They have every chance to go on the road if need be and win games in the playoffs. They only detracting thing from them is Bortles and inexperience in big games.
BillsFan130 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 Will have a tough time beating New England and Pittsburgh
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