plenzmd1 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 24 minutes ago, MarkyMannn said: I was considering a second dog and thought a rescue would be great. Go to their sites and 80% are pit bulls. And most didn't look cuddly Still get a rescue no matter what, even if you do not rescue a pit. Plenty of dogs need homes that are not pits 2
Misterbluesky Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 We've had our Ellie for 7 yrs now....got her out of the SPCA center in tonawanda.she loves the young kids when they come over for visits..walks are a must just like sleeping with me and my bride is......she's basically a larger version of our deceased Boston terrier..we raised both doggies from the puppy stage..no crates allowed,just attention,training and lots of love works wonders.....poodles..those are the biters
GoBills808 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 No such thing as a bad breed of dog IMO. A dog's tendencies are 99% attributable to its owner. For the last 5 years we've been getting Catahoula/bully mixes from a very solid line and they're great dogs. Zero aggression toward humans that don't otherwise warrant it. Tough, loyal, great hunting/guard dogs. 1
DC Tom Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said: New just had a report that the dogs were crated outside and had little human contact and could have snapped due to treatment..friends say the dogs were so sweet and passive and the owner loved them and was very tight with them..something not adding up. Apparently, they were crated outside for the past month or so by a caretaker who was watching them while the owner was out of town.
plenzmd1 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Apparently, they were crated outside for the past month or so by a caretaker who was watching them while the owner was out of town. arghh, that makes more sense. TY
DC Tom Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 Just now, GoBills808 said: No such thing as a bad breed of dog IMO. A dog's tendencies are 99% attributable to its owner. For the last 5 years we've been getting Catahoula/bully mixes from a very solid line and they're great dogs. Zero aggression toward humans that don't otherwise warrant it. Tough, loyal, great hunting/guard dogs. A girl in college had her leg torn off by a pair of rottweilers. The owner had trained them as a pair of attack dogs, and didn't keep them properly secured, so they got loose, and made their way on campus. Police had to shoot the dogs as the dogs charged them. I always felt the (*^*&%^$^#owner should have been shot as well, and am generally of the opinion that there are no bad dogs, just bad owners... But only generally, as I narrowly missed having my thigh ripped open by a rott I knew, and was familiar with me, and was well-trained and firmly led by a responsible owner...and just one time I turned my back on it and it came at me, and was brought up a foot short by its chain. So sometimes, dogs just "go bad" - have bad days, a momentary lapse, a spurious impulse, whatever. Mostly, though...bad dog indicates bad owner. Just now, plenzmd1 said: arghh, that makes more sense. TY Probably important to point out, too, that the dogs didn't "kill and eat" the woman, necessarily. They pretty certainly mauled her, out for a walk in the woods, and weren't found until the next day, when they were witnessed eating her. So while literally true...it may not be a case of "killed her out of hunger." Could be "killed her, were in the woods for a day, and eventually thought "We're hungry...and fresh meat..." 1
Misterbluesky Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) Looks like we have a couple members/fans on here with good thought skill...this is why it was a trophy winning day for them....also,no such thing as a bad kid...just bad parents! Edited December 20, 2017 by Misterbluesky
DC Tom Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Misterbluesky said: Looks like we have a couple members/fans on here with good thought skill...this is it was a trophy winning day for them....also,no such thing as a bad kid...just bad parents! No, there's bad kids.
GoBills808 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, DC Tom said: A girl in college had her leg torn off by a pair of rottweilers. The owner had trained them as a pair of attack dogs, and didn't keep them properly secured, so they got loose, and made their way on campus. Police had to shoot the dogs as the dogs charged them. I always felt the (*^*&%^$^#owner should have been shot as well, and am generally of the opinion that there are no bad dogs, just bad owners... But only generally, as I narrowly missed having my thigh ripped open by a rott I knew, and was familiar with me, and was well-trained and firmly led by a responsible owner...and just one time I turned my back on it and it came at me, and was brought up a foot short by its chain. So sometimes, dogs just "go bad" - have bad days, a momentary lapse, a spurious impulse, whatever. Mostly, though...bad dog indicates bad owner. Good perspective. It's important to keep in mind that some dogs, similar to some humans (or any animal, really) are unpredictable by genetic default. Those, however, are the exception especially in the case of domesticated canines as they owe their existence as a species to the evolutionary conceit that they're useful to us in terms of work and companionship. Aggression toward humans in dogs is a generally a learned trait as it serves no function in our codependency. 1
Misterbluesky Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, DC Tom said: No, there's bad kids. Maybe if they have a chemical imbalance.. But for the most prisons/jails are filled with people that had a tough life when they were growing up...poverty,broken home,sexual,drug and or physical abuse etc...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 What did the owner do bring them back one of these from the trip: Can't say I blame the dogs... I'd eat them too after being humiliated. 1
BuffaloBud Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Misterbluesky said: We've had our Ellie for 7 yrs now....got her out of the SPCA center in tonawanda.she loves the young kids when they come over for visits..walks are a must just like sleeping with me and my bride is......she's basically a larger version of our deceased Boston terrier..we raised both doggies from the puppy stage..no crates allowed,just attention,training and lots of love works wonders.....poodles..those are the biters All dogs have the capability to bite, not just rotties, pits, etc 1
DC Tom Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 Just now, BuffaloBud said: All dogs have the capability to bite, not just rotties, pits, etc Purebred Lhasas, for example, are just nasty, evil little monsters.
Gugny Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 2 hours ago, GoBills808 said: No such thing as a bad breed of dog IMO. A dog's tendencies are 99% attributable to its owner. For the last 5 years we've been getting Catahoula/bully mixes from a very solid line and they're great dogs. Zero aggression toward humans that don't otherwise warrant it. Tough, loyal, great hunting/guard dogs. With all due respect, this is patently false. While some of the dog's tendencies/behavioral traits can be attributed to ownership, the killer instinct is something that no amount of love can control. Nor can the dog.
boyst Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: Looks like we have a couple members/fans on here with good thought skill...this is why it was a trophy winning day for them....also,no such thing as a bad kid...just bad parents! I will give you a participation trophy. You tried. Definitely not going to the winners circle, but you tried. Bad kid. 1 hour ago, Misterbluesky said: Maybe if they have a chemical imbalance.. But for the most prisons/jails are filled with people that had a tough life when they were growing up...poverty,broken home,sexual,drug and or physical abuse etc... And the streets are filled with those people, too. What's your point? #anothertrophy4u
GoBills808 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Gugny said: With all due respect, this is patently false. While some of the dog's tendencies/behavioral traits can be attributed to ownership, the killer instinct is something that no amount of love can control. Nor can the dog. I have been a dog person, and have been around dogs and dog people, my whole life. I don't believe dogs have a 'killer instinct', as it would be counterproductive to their evolutionary lot in life. Their species has been domesticated by humans in a way no other animal ever has before in history, and they've evolved/been bred to a point where their instincts and tendencies are reflexively beneficial to humans. They're no longer predators...we've adapted them to eat grain for crying out loud. A dog with a 'killer instinct' is either the product of his learned behavior or an evolutionary misfit. Now, has selective breeding of dogs for aggression and physically intimidating characteristics like the pit bull increased certain breed's capacity for violence toward humans? Probably, but that isn't indicative of a lack of domesticity in the species...far from it: it's humans recognizing that the dog, for all intents and purposes, has lost whatever vestiges of its lupine ancestry predisposed it toward predatory behavior and are attempting (misguidedly, IMO) to reintroduce those characteristics in certain breeds. 2
Royale with Cheese Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: Looks like we have a couple members/fans on here with good thought skill...this is why it was a trophy winning day for them....also,no such thing as a bad kid...just bad parents! There's absolutely bad kids. They are everywhere. 2 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: Maybe if they have a chemical imbalance.. But for the most prisons/jails are filled with people that had a tough life when they were growing up...poverty,broken home,sexual,drug and or physical abuse etc... I currently know a people in my life who aren't in jail and have been involved with the bolded. I think everyone knows someone in their lives subjected to any of the above.
Jauronimo Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 Big deal. A local man in the Houston area was killed and partially eaten by his goldfish. **** happens.
frostbitmic Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 She got killed by her own dogs ... oh well, too bad.. better her than her neighbors. 1
boyst Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 37 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: She got killed by her own dogs ... oh well, too bad.. better her than her neighbors. Her neighbors were Hitler.
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