How should the team respond to Gronk?

[Irv]

Break the wrist and walk away.  

 

Sincerely,

 

Rex Kwon Do

 

 

 

Edited December 20, 2017 by Badthingsman

[Teddy KGB]

Break his neck 

[klos63]

58 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

 

so we can agree to disagree on brady and his suspension.   the ridiculous part of it to me was the implication that the nfl set up an elaborate ruse to accuse him of wrongdoing to get him off the field.  funny thing is, the nfl could significantly impact a team's performance just by doing little things like suspending a player for a few games  for clubbing a guy in the noggin after a play ended. 

 

the nfl has said nothing about screwing up the gronkowski suspension, they simply seem to think that was the right call for that type of play.  you're advocating a new, different, and maybe even emotional response for the next guy, which is not all that different than the way some folks want the bills players to respond to the gronk cheap shot. 

I've actually felt this way for a while now, probably going back to the Ray Rice debacle. I understand that you wouldn't know that. Just saying, it's not an emotional response to the Gronk deal, for me, it's what I've felt would be in the best interests in the league for a while. It seems to me the main cause of Goodells PR problems is the discipline function that he seems to own entirely. He should relinquish that responsibility.

[Doc]

3 hours ago, jr1 said:

they can't afford to get a penalty. Just win

 

With the playoffs still within reach, they can't afford to have any players suspended for the Miami game.  And you just know the zebras will be looking for any excuse to penalize, it not toss, a Bills player for suspected retaliation. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

44 minutes ago, klos63 said:

I've actually felt this way for a while now, probably going back to the Ray Rice debacle. I understand that you wouldn't know that. Just saying, it's not an emotional response to the Gronk deal, for me, it's what I've felt would be in the best interests in the league for a while. It seems to me the main cause of Goodells PR problems is the discipline function that he seems to own entirely. He should relinquish that responsibility.

after applying the same discipline to any bills player who loses focus this weekend, I'd be ok with that.  you just can't afford to send two different messages, in a span of three weeks, with one application to one of the highest profile players in the game and a harsher penalty to a regular joe. 

 

[Kingston Bills Fan]

Because he complained in the public that what drove him to get so frustrated to do that was being held so often. Guaranteed the refs call multiple holding and PI’s on the Bills ultimately costing us the game.

[klos63]

12 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

after applying the same discipline to any bills player who loses focus this weekend, I'd be ok with that.  you just can't afford to send two different messages, in a span of three weeks, with one application to one of the highest profile players in the game and a harsher penalty to a regular joe. 

 

an eye for an eye?  Sorry, can't agree with that. If the Bills retaliate, we know it's premeditated and it would deserve a harsher penalty.  That would send the message the revenge is acceptable.

[Doc]

11 minutes ago, Kingston Bills Fan said:

Because he complained in the public that what drove him to get so frustrated to do that was being held so often. Guaranteed the refs call multiple holding and PI’s on the Bills ultimately costing us the game.

Yeah, that would be a switch. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

12 minutes ago, klos63 said:

an eye for an eye?  Sorry, can't agree with that. If the Bills retaliate, we know it's premeditated and it would deserve a harsher penalty.  That would send the message the revenge is acceptable.

no, I wasn't talking about an eye for an eye, I'm talking about the equal application of discipline and punishment.  there is a framework for level of discipline, and it's been set at one game.  the equitable punishment for someone following a similar course of action is 1 game.  when you suggest a 'harsher' penalty should apply, you're adding a layer of subjectivity that need not be added.  I have to tell you klos, I see gronkowski's actions as pre-meditated.  the play was over, he looked at a guy laying on the ground and made a conscious decision to inflict pain on him. he was successful in doing so.  on the other hand I can see you seeing it differently. reasonable people can disagree. 

 

if it's a game on the shelf, it is a game on the shelf, and the nfl has said quite loudly...that type of activity warrants a one game suspension. 

[papazoid]

alter the game plan.....double team him more than usual. go out of your way to hit him harder than you have ever hit anyone.

 

if you get a chance to go after his knees....you do it....all friggin game.

 

brady is fair game too.....send a message loud and clear

[Rico]

This is such a big game, I’d hate to see the Bills get hurt by a costly cheap shot penalty.

 

i can wait for the next Pats game in Buffalo. Just imagine his family watching him leave the game on a stretcher & being pelted with garbage from the stands.

[Hebert19]

Shut him the !@#$ down.  That's how they should handle him.  

 

I'm more interested is seeing what he does.  Will he make the effort to cross the field to say something to tre.. .

[reddogblitz]

7 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

I think the metal bar protects the arm that was broken twice.

 

I could tell how concerned The Gronk is about the arm the way he slammed it into the back of the Tredavian Nightmare's head.

[RyanC883]

7 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

He seems like a gorilla in a cage that if you poke a few times....they lose all composure and start swinging arms and grabbing the bars shaking it.

I would rattle him all game and wait for another explosion.  Hopefully this flag(s) are very beneficial for us.

 

totally agree.  The dude is a headcase.  I would start talking to him about his mom, gf, etc after plays.  I would also bump him every time he comes off the line.  The combo of those 2 things and he'll lose his mind, commit offensive PI, etc.  

3 hours ago, klos63 said:

I agree the Gronk penalty was woefully inadequate, however, after Brady's ridiculous suspension last season, it's impossible to say the Pats are treated with kid gloves. The league needs a separate commish/director for just discipline, like hockey does.

To argue that subsequent penalties should not be dealt with more severely just because of a mistake on the handling of Gronk would be a bigger mistake. They f'd up, don't continue to f up just because we did before, stupid logic there.

He sure does seem to outrun his coverage an awful lot.

 

quite easy to make it look that way when you push-off every play.  

[klos63]

3 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

totally agree.  The dude is a headcase.  I would start talking to him about his mom, gf, etc after plays.  I would also bump him every time he comes off the line.  The combo of those 2 things and he'll lose his mind, commit offensive PI, etc.  

 

quite easy to make it look that way when you push-off every play.  

yes, i get it. the patriots cheat all the time, the refs let them get away with it..... everyone hates buffalo.....

[Happy]

1 minute ago, klos63 said:

yes, i get it. the patriots cheat all the time, the refs let them get away with it..... everyone hates buffalo.....

 

Now you're catching on 

[RyanC883]

Just now, klos63 said:

yes, i get it. the patriots cheat all the time, the refs let them get away with it..... everyone hates buffalo.....

 

never said or implied the last part, but the Patriots have an institutional history of cheating, and they get calls that no other team gets (Gronk one game suspension, for example).  And Gronk is not "fast," he pushes off.  That's why he looks/is open so often.  

[klos63]

19 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

no, I wasn't talking about an eye for an eye, I'm talking about the equal application of discipline and punishment.  there is a framework for level of discipline, and it's been set at one game.  the equitable punishment for someone following a similar course of action is 1 game.  when you suggest a 'harsher' penalty should apply, you're adding a layer of subjectivity that need not be added.  I have to tell you klos, I see gronkowski's actions as pre-meditated.  the play was over, he looked at a guy laying on the ground and made a conscious decision to inflict pain on him. he was successful in doing so.  on the other hand I can see you seeing it differently. reasonable people can disagree. 

 

if it's a game on the shelf, it is a game on the shelf, and the nfl has said quite loudly...that type of activity warrants a one game suspension. 

I don't think that's the standard definition of premeditated. If he planned it all game or throughout the 4th qtr, I would agree. If he reacted after that play, no it's not. If it was, everything would be premeditated. If we took revenge 2 weeks after the incident, that's more like the according to hoyel definition of premeditated.

Just now, Happy Gilmore said:

 

Now you're catching on 

should i start whining like a little child too?

[YoloinOhio]

1)Win the !@#$ing game 2)avoid suspensions for week 17

Edited December 20, 2017 by YoloinOhio

[buffaloboyinATL]

They should respond to Gronk in mono-syllabic words. He doesn't think good.