klos63 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Magox said: With the cheap shot against Tre'davious white, how should the Bills respond? Should one of the players return the cheap shot back to him? Just play physical against him? Try to hurt him? Or simply just exact revenge by winning? I'm hoping one of the players absolutely levels him right back. I don't care if they get ejected, pick some back up and try to put the hurt on him. What Gronk did was malicious and he deserves to get it right back. This isn't hockey where you have opportunities to hit someone legally and add a little cheap shot to it. To go out of your way to injure someone would be just as bad as what Gronk did. I feel like i'm teaching my kids life lessons about revenge. I tell my kids to be the bigger person. The league suspended him for a game, it probably should have been more, but it wasn't a slap on the wrist. This isn't vigilante justice here. If the players are distracted by Gronk- we have less of a chance to win than originally thought, and we need to win Sunday. 1
bmur66 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: No I'm not okay with it. I want our team to go out there and play hard and hit them hard but in a clean way. Why intentionally try to hurt a player? Why stoop to that level? We are already the trash of the NFL with our fans hurting themselves by jumping onto tables. I prefer to play the right way and with class. I want our players focusing on winning this crucial game not on hurting another player. Athletes have family just like White said. I'm not in the boat of threatening a players career and letting our emotions get in the way of winning. The only thing a bully understands is getting punched in the nose. I agree winning is more important BUT, It's one thing to lose. It's another thing to lose and get your butt kicked. That is what happened last game. If that happens again they don't deserve to be in the playoffs anyways. Just my opinion.
PaattMaann Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, ddaryl said: There is no room at all ever for wishing injury on another player. I can't beleive some here even consider it an option. Those who are suggesting a cheap shot are right up there with the drunk table jumper staples in the head meathead or the I'm on fire guy Thank you!!! some of us just want to see accountability for peoples actions...its part of whats wrong with society today, many are not held accountable for their actions, so they never learn. Common with criminals...schools let kids get away with things out of fear from parents, kids dont learn their actions have consequences, they commit crimes on the streets, court system slaps them on the wrist with a petty probation or puts them on PINS in youthful offender status, again they dont learn from their mistakes (look at me, Im hard, the schools and courts cant touch me!!)...and then they commit real crimes because they never learned their lessons... this Gronk situation is merely a microcosm of whats wrong with society...therefore I am in favor of dealing out justice, and maybe the Gronk will learn him something...and if not, itll hurt the Pat's...DILLY DILLY!
stevewin Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 I feel the whole thing is playing right into the Cheaters hands. They will have a plan to try to capitalize off any Bills emotion by needling them throughout the game in an effort to draw penalties. Same as what the did to capitalize on Rex's 'undisciplined' teams
ProcessAccepted Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: He seems like a gorilla in a cage that if you poke a few times....they lose all composure and start swinging arms and grabbing the bars shaking it. I would rattle him all game and wait for another explosion. Hopefully this flag(s) are very beneficial for us. Sadly they only throw flags against the Pats when the game is not in doubt. These flags are just to even out the bogus calls that stopped drives for the opponent team. If this were any other team I'd be right there with you, but against the Pats at Foxboro the result will be holding, taunting or unsportsmanlike calls :-(
The Now Moment Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, bmur66 said: The only thing a bully understands is getting punched in the nose. I agree winning is more important BUT, It's one thing to lose. It's another thing to lose and get your butt kicked. That is what happened last game. If that happens again they don't deserve to be in the playoffs anyways. Just my opinion. So we need to take a cheap shot on a guy because we are gonna lose? That sounds pretty low to me
klos63 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, PaattMaann said: Thank you!!! some of us just want to see accountability for peoples actions...its part of whats wrong with society today, many are not held accountable for their actions, so they never learn. Common with criminals...schools let kids get away with things out of fear from parents, kids dont learn their actions have consequences, they commit crimes on the streets, court system slaps them on the wrist with a petty probation or puts them on PINS in youthful offender status, again they dont learn from their mistakes (look at me, Im hard, the schools and courts cant touch me!!)...and then they commit real crimes because they never learned their lessons... this Gronk situation is merely a microcosm of whats wrong with society...therefore I am in favor of dealing out justice, and maybe the Gronk will learn him something...and if not, itll hurt the Pat's...DILLY DILLY! jesus christ, Gronk did get suspended you know.
PaattMaann Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, klos63 said: jesus christ, Gronk did get suspended you know. lol yup, the 1 game was equivalent to a child criminal being given community service they never have to complete...does nothing, you think Gronk learned from that one game suspension? He showed no remorse, he blamed the freaking refs!!!!!! give me a break easy to see why we are soft as a society
BillsfanAZ Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 I am sure when Gronk catches the ball there will be a little bit more intensity in the hits he receives. Refs will be looking for retaliation on him and will flag anything considered close. The Bills cannot afford 15 yard penalties against the Pats. Instead of trying to hurt him, take away his impact on the game. Beat him on the scoreboard. 20 yrs ago I would have said punch him in the throat.
Xwnyer Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 put two linebackers on him and smack him every time he tries to move. Also a late smack now and than.
klos63 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, PaattMaann said: lol yup, the 1 game was equivalent to a child criminal being given community service they never have to complete...does nothing, you think Gronk learned from that one game suspension? He showed no remorse, he blamed the freaking refs!!!!!! give me a break easy to see why we are soft as a society Yeah, this is why our prisons are so empty. You're ridiculous. 1 minute ago, BillsfanAZ said: I am sure when Gronk catches the ball there will be a little bit more intensity in the hits he receives. Refs will be looking for retaliation on him and will flag anything considered close. The Bills cannot afford 15 yard penalties against the Pats. Instead of trying to hurt him, take away his impact on the game. Beat him on the scoreboard. 20 yrs ago I would have said punch him in the throat. If we are anywhere near him when he catches the ball. 3 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: lol yup, the 1 game was equivalent to a child criminal being given community service they never have to complete...does nothing, you think Gronk learned from that one game suspension? He showed no remorse, he blamed the freaking refs!!!!!! give me a break easy to see why we are soft as a society I'm pretty confident he won't do that again, so yeah, I think he did.
PaattMaann Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 Just now, klos63 said: Yeah, this is why our prisons are so empty. You're ridiculous. you are, without intending to, agreeing with my argument...our prisons ARE full because we take no real preventative measures to stop criminals before they become full fledged criminals. Get to them young, teach them young in hopes of stopping them from committing real crimes that need prison time. However I am done with this line of discussion because it is not what the thread was intended for... .
klos63 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 Just now, PaattMaann said: you are, without intending to, agreeing with my argument...our prisons ARE full because we take no real preventative measures to stop criminals before they become full fledged criminals. Get to them young, teach them young in hopes of stopping them from committing real crimes that need prison time. However I am done with this line of discussion because it is not what the thread was intended for... . you should have just left it alone to begin with instead of starting some silly rant
ddaryl Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: Thank you!!! some of us just want to see accountability for peoples actions...its part of whats wrong with society today, many are not held accountable for their actions, so they never learn. Common with criminals...schools let kids get away with things out of fear from parents, kids dont learn their actions have consequences, they commit crimes on the streets, court system slaps them on the wrist with a petty probation or puts them on PINS in youthful offender status, again they dont learn from their mistakes (look at me, Im hard, the schools and courts cant touch me!!)...and then they commit real crimes because they never learned their lessons... this Gronk situation is merely a microcosm of whats wrong with society...therefore I am in favor of dealing out justice, and maybe the Gronk will learn him something...and if not, itll hurt the Pat's...DILLY DILLY! I understand the frustration but its no excuse to devolve... the only way to satisfy us is to beat them and to beat them with there best players on the field. A dirty hit for the sake of temporary satisfaction will not ail what is really hurting us.. We need the WIN NOW I am all for hitting the man hard and treating Brady like a rag doll but I would take no satisfaction if we have to resort to Cobra Kai Edited December 20, 2017 by ddaryl
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 Hit him hard hit him often and hang all over him. Frustrate him all game and take his mind out of it. Then hit Brady and pressure Brady all game stifle the run and win the game the best revenge you can get. Don't do anything dirty, I wont be mad at a pass interference call or holding call occasionally as long as it's not putting them in a great position. Get exotic on the d-line calling crazy blitzes and then faking the blitzes and dropping in coverage very important to not blitz to often and make sure they get home when you do or he'll pick us apart.
hondo in seattle Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Just in Atlanta said: Guard somehow against the slant. Guard somehow against the fade. Hit him often, mercilessly, and within the rules. I agree. Gronk's cheap hit is in the past. Winning is more important than revenge. Accomplishing just that one goal is difficult enough. We don't need to try for two. Shutting him down and getting a "W" would be revenge enough.
Mat68 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 Hit him often. Do it legally. The best way to exact revenge is win the game.
starrymessenger Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 As a general rule I don't like to see players get hurt, regardless of exactly how it happens or what uniform they suit up in. These guys work too hard for too long to get to where they are and even if the risk of injury is part of the game I don't get any satisfaction when it happens. On the other hand, the players don't assume the risk of injury as a result of a criminal assault that is clearly outside the four corners of the game. And one would expect players to understand that given their own vulnerability to career limiting injury. So as an exception to the general rule I really wouldn't feel bad if Gronk was carted off the field on a stretcher next Sunday. But as it is, against a superior opponent the Bills will be struggling to level out the playing field. And we all know the deference with which NFL officiating treats Tom and the Pats, especially at Gillette. So do everything you can to disrupt Gronk's game and hit him often and hit him hard but do so within the rules. The D absolutely has to scheme to take him away if the Bills are to have any chance. He's a great player and he's really on his game right now.
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