8-8 Forever? Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 Apologies to the younger crowd .. I grew up with Dennis Shaw , Max Anderson, sort of the pre OJ days ... anyone know what happened to these two guys?
chetehc Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 No idea. But Shaw could have been great if not for injuries! Max Anderson was a fan favorite like a smaller, quicker Fred Jackson!
Helpmenow Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 Shaw didn’t have the best or strongest arm. Who else has worn 16?
Nanker Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Why not search on Google?
klos63 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 34 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Why not search on Google? Is that thing still around? 2
Chandler#81 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 Loved Mini-Max! I was surprised to look up his numbers and see how pedestrian they are, given he was the lone bright spot on those dreadful teams. While Shaw won ROY in ‘70, heaving air balls to Moses & Brisco, he had unusually small hands and couldn’t fire bullets. He only lasted 2 more seasons before being replaced by rookie Joe Ferguson and was dealt to the Cardinals. Strong rumor from the era was he spewed some racist crap in the locker room, alienating many teammates.. As for #16, going just on memory, I can only think of Tom Flores -who played before Shaw was drafted.
chris heff Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 The Google doesn't have much info on either of them.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said: Loved Mini-Max! I was surprised to look up his numbers and see how pedestrian they are, given he was the lone bright spot on those dreadful teams. While Shaw won ROY in ‘70, heaving air balls to Moses & Brisco, he had unusually small hands and couldn’t fire bullets. He only lasted 2 more seasons before being replaced by rookie Joe Ferguson and was dealt to the Cardinals. Strong rumor from the era was he spewed some racist crap in the locker room, alienating many teammates.. As for #16, going just on memory, I can only think of Tom Flores -who played before Shaw was drafted. Mini Max wasn't going to do much with OJ on the scene. Recently we've had Brad Smith and Matt Cassel wear #16.
Chandler#81 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Mini Max wasn't going to do much with OJ on the scene. Recently we've had Brad Smith and Matt Cassel wear #16. He came before OJ.
Cripple Creek Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 Zero out there on Anderson that I could find. Try reaching out to this guy, if anyone can help you it's him. Here's a bit on Shaw: http://aztecmesa.proboards.com/thread/4144/dennis-shaw-where http://articles.latimes.com/1988-06-21/sports/sp-4590_1_dennis-shaw 1
26CornerBlitz Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: He came before OJ. I know, but he was on the '69 team in OJ's rookie season which meant he wasn't going to get many looks.
Helpmenow Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 Chandler 81, james Harris was around that time as well. We used call Shaw Denny the floater
Toledo Bill Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 33 minutes ago, Helpmenow said: Chandler 81, james Harris was around that time as well. We used call Shaw Denny the floater Talk about a difference in arm strength! 1
hondo in seattle Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 I remember hearing that Mini Max Andersen swallowed his tongue after receiving a hard hit. I was maybe 8 or 9 years old at the time and the idea horrified me until my mom explained what the expression really meant.
Bob in STL Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 2 hours ago, chetehc said: No idea. But Shaw could have been great if not for injuries! Max Anderson was a fan favorite like a smaller, quicker Fred Jackson! Billy Shaw WAS great even with injuries. He is on the First Team All Time AFL Team and he is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton. You must be thinking of Tom Sestak, my avatar. Tom is on the First Team All time AFL Team. He did not make the Pro Football HoF because he never played a game in the NFL due to injury. Sestak was a beast. Fast and strong. He lead the best defenses the Bills EVER had, in any era, that would be 1963-66. To this day the best DT we ever had. 1
Big Turk Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Why not search on Google? Google is your friend
Bob in STL Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 2 hours ago, 8-8 Forever? said: Apologies to the younger crowd .. I grew up with Dennis Shaw , Max Anderson, sort of the pre OJ days ... anyone know what happened to these two guys? Mini Max played in 1968 and 1969, a combined total of 25 games. These teams were really lousy. They were horribly coached by John Rauch and Harvey Johnson. Most of the great Bills players of the mid 60's were either traded away, injured, or at the end of their careers. Mini Max stats: Listed generously at At 5'8" and 180 lbs his stats were not bad for playing on the worst team in the AFL 160 carries, 599 yards, 3.7 YPC, 3 TD. 29 pass receptions for 209 yards, 0 TDs He had a 100 kick return for a TD in 1968.
Helpmenow Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 I played football with Harvey Johnson’s son. RIP to both 47 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: I remember hearing that Mini Max Andersen swallowed his tongue after receiving a hard hit. I was maybe 8 or 9 years old at the time and the idea horrified me until my mom explained what the expression really meant. Jack Spikes was the one 2
vorpma Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 The Bills embarked on a youth movement in 1968, the AFL was moving towards youth and speed in the late 1960's - the Chiefs and Raiders. The Bills were the standard NFL team in the mid 1960's, great defense and a strong running game - couple yards and a cloud of dust but no great speed and getting older. KC Chiefs destroyed them in the 1966 AFL Championship Game with the speed of Otis Taylor, Mike Garrett, and Chris Burford followed by 1967 when the team just got older and slower. In 1968 many veterans left the team and two rookies - Mini Max Anderson and a very fast and big Fullback named Ben Gregory opened alot of eyes. Unfortunately bad coaching led to the 1st Round Pick in 1969 and OJ Simpson which led to the eventual departure of Max Anderson and a tragic knee injury ended Ben Gregorys career; would have loved to seen him and OJ in the same backfield. I too watched Jack Spikes get hurt, in 1967 it was a pretty scary thing!
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