BobbyC81 Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 3 hours ago, offyourocker said: Can we stop the non sense. The guy does not throw the ball. They would never have acquired Benjamin if they had any thought of keeping Tyrod. I love the him as a team player but he is a good backup. If they (TT and Rico) consistently produced performances like Sunday's first half, it would be worth giving them more time. Unfortunately we've seen too many like the 2nd half with little reason to believe it would improve. 1
Nuncha Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) Been there, done that. He had two HOME games where he passed for less than 70 yards and you want to consider having him back? Next... Edited December 19, 2017 by Azucho98 1
GunnerBill Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 4 hours ago, JerseyBills said: I have been a big time Taylor supporter, my reasoning has always been that he is the best option available to Buffalo. If Taylor has 2 (hopefully much more in playoffs) quality games after a quality start last week do we use our draft capital to build around him ? I personally would love to build around him. He's now 21-19 with mostly below average defense. Build on that D, add a cpl weapons on O and I think he can get 10 wins on a regular basis, but I do understand he needs to show consistentcy. If he closes out the year with 3 or more quality starts in a row, I think he must stay ,along with Dennison. Unless of course our staff sees a can't miss QB prospect, I'd rather draft a 2nd -3rd rounder and keep a guy that doesn't turn the ball over and if game planned right can use his feet as well as his arm to get wins...This week will show me alot about Taylor/Dennison,on the road , biggest game in a decade , this could keep both of them in Bills gear for 2018 imo... No. And it isn't happening. It's over.
Prickly Pete Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 4 hours ago, JerseyBills said: I have been a big time Taylor supporter, my reasoning has always been that he is the best option available to Buffalo. If Taylor has 2 (hopefully much more in playoffs) quality games after a quality start last week do we use our draft capital to build around him ? I personally would love to build around him. He's now 21-19 with mostly below average defense. Build on that D, add a cpl weapons on O and I think he can get 10 wins on a regular basis, but I do understand he needs to show consistentcy. If he closes out the year with 3 or more quality starts in a row, I think he must stay ,along with Dennison. Unless of course our staff sees a can't miss QB prospect, I'd rather draft a 2nd -3rd rounder and keep a guy that doesn't turn the ball over and if game planned right can use his feet as well as his arm to get wins...This week will show me alot about Taylor/Dennison,on the road , biggest game in a decade , this could keep both of them in Bills gear for 2018 imo... AGAIN? How many threads does this need?
westerndecline Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 They are drafting a qb rd 1 regardless of how far buffalo goes.... Jmo
Doc Brown Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 Barring an amazing two games by him here, Taylor is probably gone. We all wanted him to be the franchise quarterback , but it's been pretty clear for a while now his weaknesses make it unlikely he'll ever be a top tier quarterback despite being able to do some things maybe only Russell Wilson can do. I'm guessing Dennison follows him out the door. I could see us signing someone like Bradford and drafting a QB. 7 minutes ago, westerndecline said: They are drafting a qb rd 1 regardless of how far buffalo goes.... Jmo Probably. Starting Peterman against SD kind of tipped their hand.
westerndecline Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Barring an amazing two games by him here, Taylor is probably gone. We all wanted him to be the franchise quarterback , but it's been pretty clear for a while now his weaknesses make it unlikely he'll ever be a top tier quarterback despite being able to do some things maybe only Russell Wilson can do. I'm guessing Dennison follows him out the door. I could see us signing someone like Bradford and drafting a QB. Probably. Starting Peterman against SD kind of tipped their hand. Dont be suprised if they also keep tt and still draft a qb rd1 too In fact thts what i think they will do 2
GreggTX Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 If we don't go to the playoffs, he's gone. If the Ravens win out, we're done for and their last 2 games should be VERY winnable. Colts next and the nosediving Bengals at home. The Bills will be challenged just to win in Miami, IMO. I think our odds of winning at Foxboro are 1:20 at best. The good news is that this roster will receive a major upgrade after the regular season if Mr. Beane is any better than his last 2 predecessors. I really, really hope he's our next top tier GM. It's been far too long. 1
8-8 Forever? Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 15 minutes ago, westerndecline said: They are drafting a qb rd 1 regardless of how far buffalo goes.... Jmo agree. I think the plan has always been the plan. trust the process. QB will be drafted in the spring no matter what happens this year. TT is not a guy who can deliver wins against top 10 teams .. he needs tremendous play around him, he does a lot of good things, but the NFL is geared now for the QB to determine the fate of a team over the course of a whole season, IMO they look around and TT is just their best option for winning games this year, this game. and frankly, that's how they'll look at QB next year as well; they look at what they have and who's available and decide who gives them the best opportunity to win that week , that year 1
westerndecline Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 Id still.argue b7ffalo is extremely dangerous in a playoff scenario. A dynamic running qb two huge wrs and nothing to lose is not something id want to face.... This isnt best of 7 1
GreggTX Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, westerndecline said: Dont be suprised if they also keep tt and still draft a qb rd1 too In fact thts what i think they will do I think it also depends who it is. If they trade up and get a guy they think can benefit from getting off to a fast start or they unexpectedly land a great QB by other means, I could see him being dealt on draft weekend or whenever. This will be our busiest offseason in at least a generation. I'm excited. Edited December 19, 2017 by GreggTX
GETTOTHE50 Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 There's a couple things that have to happen if Tyrod wants to remain a Bill and get a big contract. 1. He has to play great these last two games and lead the team to 10-6. 2. He needs to drive this team deep into the playoffs, and atleast reach the afc championship. if he can't do that, then there is no use in keeping him. He needs to play like his life depends on a win in a foxboro. He needs to take a big step, and soon. I don't want him to be the qb anymore if they dont beat the patties and only back into the playoffs
BeginnersMind Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 5 hours ago, JerseyBills said: What if he looks as poised and confident as he did this week? What if he gets us in the dance? One might presume him and Rico finally established how to get the most out of his game, they're only going on game 13 where Dennison is scheming for Taylor. If he shows the confidence and poise he did this week, I don't think it'd be so easy to move on.. Again, this is hypothetical but he looked as comfortable as he did all year, by alot, if he shows that in the next 2+ games, you can have a strong argument in his favor. Which half of last week? And there lies the problem.
Lenigmusx Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 2 hours ago, GreggTX said: If we don't go to the playoffs, he's gone. If the Ravens win out, we're done for and their last 2 games should be VERY winnable. Colts next and the nosediving Bengals at home. The Bills will be challenged just to win in Miami, IMO. I think our odds of winning at Foxboro are 1:20 at best. The good news is that this roster will receive a major upgrade after the regular season if Mr. Beane is any better than his last 2 predecessors. I really, really hope he's our next top tier GM. It's been far too long. What about the Titans losing out and SD losing one, those are the teams we are battling with not Baltimore.
ProcessTheTrust Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 If Tyrod strings a few good games in a row, he sets himself up to maybe compete for a starting job elsewhere next year. No way he's a Bill next year.
CSBill Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 A new day, another Tyrod Taylor thread = Groundhogs Day
MAJBobby Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 Draft a QB and finally move on. Pull the bandaid off already or cross the bridge already however you want to say it 1
Wayne Arnold Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 If Taylor can play well in wins against the Patriots and Dolphins, then I'll hop on the "build around Tyrod" train. Otherwise, it would take a playoff run. Tyrod has yet another opportunity in front of him. Can he take advantage? We will see. 2
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 I broached this topic yesterday This data is from a year ago (but I don't think much has changed wrt TT's passing) Top 5 highest uncatchable throw % Tyrod Taylor (24.35%) It was countered with a comparison to Tom Brady who throws more than twice as much as TT and as we see often throws the ball away on purpose to avoid sacks and with help from the Refs avoids intentional grounding. Thoughts?
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